From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8159 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 2014 16:03:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 18764 Received: (qmail 3894 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2014 16:02:32 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: zsh-users@zsh.org From: Yuri D'Elia Subject: Re: zsh-newuser-install Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:02:15 +0200 Message-ID: References: <140416102727.ZM19090@torch.brasslantern.com> <534FE710.3020601@eastlink.ca> <140417123722.ZM22179@torch.brasslantern.com> <20140423165024.1480528a@pws-pc.ntlworld.com> <535920E5.1090108@eastlink.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.106.183.18 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/24.4.0 In-Reply-To: <535920E5.1090108@eastlink.ca> On 04/24/2014 04:34 PM, Ray Andrews wrote: >> If nobody used oh-my-zsh, the world would be a better place. Or at >> least #zsh would be. >> I had to smile at this :) >> But, sadly, many of the people that I know use it. > > Indeed? What's wrong with it? When I was looking for reliable > help/information about zsh > I remember seeing it, tho all I remember is that it seemed very advanced > and complicated, > but what is 'sad' about people using it? Too bad there isn't some sort > of overview of all zsh > resources, so that one knows where to look for information, and what to > expect here and there. The problem is that it is, indeed, quite complicated. It's not exactly what I would recommend to somebody that is starting from zero with zsh. Debugging slow completion or any issue you have with it will immediately be too hard for somebody who never tweaked zsh before, because there's no single "item" you can search for in the manual page. For instance, I severely dislike when completion tries to outsmart me, or behaves in non-predictive ways. I care much more that completion takes 0 time (as in: no perceptible time) to complete. You'll need some RTFM to tweak the completer in the way you want, but tweaking oh-my-zsh will just be harder. I see no difference between bash/zsh if I really wanted to use just some pre-packaged config. You can roughly get the same behavior anyway.