From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14469 invoked from network); 29 Aug 1997 02:54:27 -0000 Received: from math.gatech.edu (list@130.207.146.50) by coral.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 29 Aug 1997 02:54:27 -0000 Received: (from list@localhost) by math.gatech.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id WAA04422; Thu, 28 Aug 1997 22:44:38 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 22:44:06 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: snoopy.ftlsol.com: tim set sender to Tim.Writer using -f Sender: tim@ftlsol.com To: Marc Baudoin Cc: Bruce Stephens , zsh-users@math.gatech.edu Subject: Re: zsh as root login References: <199708271045.GAA27847@math.gatech.edu> <19970828091534.01234@skiff.solsoft.com> From: Tim Writer Date: 28 Aug 1997 22:17:24 -0400 In-Reply-To: Marc Baudoin's message of Thu, 28 Aug 1997 09:15:34 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.37/XEmacs 19.15 Resent-Message-ID: <"4IVie.0.W41.sTZ1q"@math> Resent-From: zsh-users@math.gatech.edu X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/994 X-Loop: zsh-users@math.gatech.edu X-Loop: zsh-workers@math.gatech.edu Precedence: list Resent-Sender: zsh-workers-request@math.gatech.edu Marc Baudoin writes: > Tim Writer écrit : > > > > Agreed. But I'm curious as to why you (Marc Baudoin) even want zsh > > statically linked. > > Just to be able to log in as root while my computer in booted > single user, as only / is mounted and root's shell is zsh. How often are you running single user? If the system is so badly hosed that you can't get it to go multi-user, having zsh doesn't help much. > > I prefer to keep root dead simple, using /bin/sh without evan a > > .profile. > > Why? When you're logged as root, you also use ed instead of vi > to keep it simple? :-) ed? I use cat. :-) But seriously, you didn't read what I said. I keep "root" simple for emergencies. That is, to make sure I can login in an emergency. I have a pretty fancy set of zsh startup scripts and I don't want a stupid mistake or an oversite to shut me out of root. An alternate root account with a different login name and zsh gives me the best of both worlds: safety and functionality. > As I manage a lot of machines remotely, I like to have a good > shell for root (who still uses sh without beeing bothered?) and I > don't want to have many uid 0 accounts. So root's shell is zsh > and it needs to be static so I can log in where I'm in front of > the computer and it's booted single user. I manage a lot of machines remotely too and I also like having a good shell. But, I don't mind an extra root account. However, my main point was: you can have it exactly the way you want it with a three line script. Trying to make configure be all things to all people seems unwise. Tim -- Tim Writer Tim.Writer@ftlsol.com FTL Solutions Inc. Toronto, Ontario, CANADA