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* Re: PATCH: Re: (forw) --help able programs and completion]
       [not found] <200006271502.RAA30019@beta.informatik.hu-berlin.de>
@ 2000-06-27 22:46 ` Bart Schaefer
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Bart Schaefer @ 2000-06-27 22:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: zsh-workers

On Jun 27,  5:02pm, Sven Wischnowsky wrote:
> Subject: PATCH: Re: (forw) --help able programs and completion]
> 
> Bart Schaefer wrote:
> 
> > What I was expecting, for some reason, was that menu selection would start
> > immediately if there were more than N matches, not wait for the second TAB
> > that triggers automenu.
> 
> Ah. No, but that's easy to add.

Er, thanks, but you didn't really need to add that; all I wanted was a
yes-or-no answer ...

> I used the same form as for `select', i.e. one can say `yes=3' to turn 
> on menu completion when there are at least three matches.

Hrm.
	zstyle ':completion:*' menu 1=3

Does that look a bit strange to anyone else?

> Does anybody now want support for `no=3'?

Which would mean ...?

However, a plain-ol'-menu-completion variant of select=long-list might be
interesting.


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* Re: PATCH: Re: (forw) --help able programs and completion]
@ 2000-06-29  9:27 Sven Wischnowsky
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Sven Wischnowsky @ 2000-06-29  9:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: zsh-workers


Peter Stephenson wrote:

> Sven wrote
> > I wrote:
> > 
> > > [ the menu style and `yes=<num>' ]
> > > 
> > > Another question is if it should mean `if there are less than <num>
> > > matches, start menu completion', because menu completion (at least the 
> > > *real* menu completion, not selection) works best with few matches.
> 
> I don't understand.  I though Bart's original question was `how do I start
> menu completion at a certain number of matches without menu selection?'
> Now we have two ways for turning it off.  Surely, if we're going to have
> both, yes should mean `turn it on if at least n' and no should mean `turn
> it off if at least n', so you can set a range?

Ouch. Right. Ahem.

> Unless you want to implement `yes=3' turn on at 3 `yes=-6' turn on to begin
> with then off at 6 `yes=3-6' turn on from 3 to 6.  I could get my brain
> round that.

Erm... hm, that's another idea (but if it's allowed for both yes and
no rather irritating).

Bye
 Sven

Index: Completion/Core/_main_complete
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/zsh/zsh/Completion/Core/_main_complete,v
retrieving revision 1.33
diff -u -r1.33 _main_complete
--- Completion/Core/_main_complete	2000/06/29 07:04:17	1.33
+++ Completion/Core/_main_complete	2000/06/29 09:26:18
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@
 # Failed returns from this code are not real errors
 setopt localtraps noerrexit ; trap - ZERR
 
-local func funcs ret=1 tmp _compskip format nm call match min i num\
+local func funcs ret=1 tmp _compskip format nm call match min max i num\
       _completers _completer _completer_num curtag _comp_force_list \
       _matchers _matcher _matcher_num _comp_tags _comp_mesg \
       context state line opt_args val_args curcontext="$curcontext" \
@@ -181,7 +181,7 @@
       sel=( "${(@M)_menu_style:#(yes|true|1|on)*}" )
 
       if (( $#sel )); then
-	min=0
+	min=9999999
         for i in "$sel[@]"; do
           if [[ "$i" = *\=* ]]; then
   	    num="${i#*\=}"
@@ -189,38 +189,36 @@
   	  else
   	    num=$nm
   	  fi
-  	  [[ num -gt min ]] && min="$num"
+  	  [[ num -lt min ]] && min="$num"
   
-	  [[ min -ge nm ]] && break
+	  (( min )) || break
         done
       fi
-      if [[ ( -n "$min" && nm -le min ) ||
+      sel=( "${(@M)_menu_style:#(no|false|0|off)*}" )
+
+      if (( $#sel )); then
+	max=9999999
+        for i in "$sel[@]"; do
+          if [[ "$i" = *\=* ]]; then
+  	    num="${i#*\=}"
+  	    [[ num -lt 0 ]] && num=0
+  	  else
+  	    num=0
+  	  fi
+  	  [[ num -lt max ]] && max="$num"
+  
+	  (( max )) || break
+        done
+      fi
+      if [[ ( -n "$min" && nm -ge min && ( -z "$max" || nm -lt max ) ) ||
             ( -n "$_menu_style[(r)auto*]" &&
               "$compstate[insert]" = automenu ) ]]; then
         compstate[insert]=menu
+      elif [[ -n "$max" && nm -ge max ]]; then
+        compstate[insert]=unambiguous
       elif [[ -n "$_menu_style[(r)auto*]" &&
               "$compstate[insert]" != automenu ]]; then
         compstate[insert]=automenu-unambiguous
-      else
-        sel=( "${(@M)_menu_style:#(no|false|0|off)*}" )
-
-        if (( $#sel )); then
-	  min=9999999
-          for i in "$sel[@]"; do
-            if [[ "$i" = *\=* ]]; then
-  	      num="${i#*\=}"
-  	      [[ num -lt 0 ]] && num=0
-  	    else
-  	      num=0
-  	    fi
-  	    [[ num -lt min ]] && min="$num"
-  
-	    (( min )) || break
-          done
-        else
-          min=
-        fi
-        [[ -n "$min" && nm -ge min ]] && compstate[insert]=unambiguous
       fi
     fi
   fi
Index: Doc/Zsh/compsys.yo
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/zsh/zsh/Doc/Zsh/compsys.yo,v
retrieving revision 1.79
diff -u -r1.79 compsys.yo
--- Doc/Zsh/compsys.yo	2000/06/29 07:10:31	1.79
+++ Doc/Zsh/compsys.yo	2000/06/29 09:26:21
@@ -1595,7 +1595,7 @@
 
 Using the form `tt(yes=)var(num)', where `tt(yes)' may be any of the
 true values (`tt(yes)', `tt(true)', `tt(on)' and `tt(1)') turns on
-menu completion if there at most var(num) matches.  Using this for one
+menu completion if there at least var(num) matches.  Using this for one
 of the `false' values (as in `tt(no=10)') makes menu completion
 em(not) be used if there are var(num) or more matches.  Of course,
 this is only useful when menu completion is normally used, e.g. by

--
Sven Wischnowsky                         wischnow@informatik.hu-berlin.de


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* Re: PATCH: Re: (forw) --help able programs and completion]
  2000-06-29  7:02 Sven Wischnowsky
@ 2000-06-29  9:04 ` Peter Stephenson
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Peter Stephenson @ 2000-06-29  9:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Zsh hackers list

Sven wrote
> I wrote:
> 
> > [ the menu style and `yes=<num>' ]
> > 
> > Another question is if it should mean `if there are less than <num>
> > matches, start menu completion', because menu completion (at least the 
> > *real* menu completion, not selection) works best with few matches.

I don't understand.  I though Bart's original question was `how do I start
menu completion at a certain number of matches without menu selection?'
Now we have two ways for turning it off.  Surely, if we're going to have
both, yes should mean `turn it on if at least n' and no should mean `turn
it off if at least n', so you can set a range?

Unless you want to implement `yes=3' turn on at 3 `yes=-6' turn on to begin
with then off at 6 `yes=3-6' turn on from 3 to 6.  I could get my brain
round that.

-- 
Peter Stephenson <pws@cambridgesiliconradio.com>
Cambridge Silicon Radio, Unit 300, Science Park, Milton Road,
Cambridge, CB4 0XL, UK                          Tel: +44 (0)1223 392070


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* Re: PATCH: Re: (forw) --help able programs and completion]
@ 2000-06-29  7:02 Sven Wischnowsky
  2000-06-29  9:04 ` Peter Stephenson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Sven Wischnowsky @ 2000-06-29  7:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: zsh-workers


I wrote:

> [ the menu style and `yes=<num>' ]
> 
> Another question is if it should mean `if there are less than <num>
> matches, start menu completion', because menu completion (at least the 
> *real* menu completion, not selection) works best with few matches.
> 
> That's easy to change, though (I'd like to get opinions from menu
> completion users).

This patch does that (as long as I don't get replies, I'll happily
continue hacking).

> > > Does anybody now want support for `no=3'?
> > 
> > Which would mean ...?
> 
> If one has `setopt menucomplete', setting the menu style to one of the 
> `false' values can be used to turn menu completion off for some
> contexts. Allowing `no=<num>' would either mean to turn it of if there 
> are more or less than <num> matches, whatever we decide `yes=<num>'
> means.

It also does this (with `if there are at least <num> matches, don't
start menu completion').

> > However, a plain-ol'-menu-completion variant of select=long-list might be
> > interesting.
> 
> Hmhm, right.

And it does this (`yes=long-list').

Bye
 Sven

Index: Completion/Core/_main_complete
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/zsh/zsh/Completion/Core/_main_complete,v
retrieving revision 1.32
diff -u -r1.32 _main_complete
--- Completion/Core/_main_complete	2000/06/28 09:42:51	1.32
+++ Completion/Core/_main_complete	2000/06/29 07:02:03
@@ -170,8 +170,9 @@
 
   _menu_style=( "$_menu_style[@]" "$_def_menu_style[@]" )
 
-  if [[ "$compstate[list]" = *list &&
-        -n "$_menu_style[(r)select=long-list]" && tmp -gt LINES ]]; then
+  if [[ "$compstate[list]" = *list && tmp -gt LINES &&
+        ( -n "$_menu_style[(r)select=long-list]" ||
+          -n "$_menu_style[(r)(yes|true|on|1)=long-list]" ) ]]; then
     compstate[insert]=menu
   elif [[ "$compstate[insert]" = "$_saved_insert" ]]; then
     if [[ -n "$_menu_style[(r)select=long]" && tmp -gt LINES ]]; then
@@ -180,28 +181,46 @@
       sel=( "${(@M)_menu_style:#(yes|true|1|on)*}" )
 
       if (( $#sel )); then
-	min=9999999
+	min=0
         for i in "$sel[@]"; do
           if [[ "$i" = *\=* ]]; then
   	    num="${i#*\=}"
   	    [[ num -lt 0 ]] && num=0
   	  else
-  	    num=0
+  	    num=$nm
   	  fi
-  	  [[ num -lt min ]] && min="$num"
+  	  [[ num -gt min ]] && min="$num"
   
-	  (( min )) || break
+	  [[ min -ge nm ]] && break
         done
       fi
-      if [[ ( -n "$min" && nm -ge min ) ||
+      if [[ ( -n "$min" && nm -le min ) ||
             ( -n "$_menu_style[(r)auto*]" &&
               "$compstate[insert]" = automenu ) ]]; then
         compstate[insert]=menu
       elif [[ -n "$_menu_style[(r)auto*]" &&
               "$compstate[insert]" != automenu ]]; then
         compstate[insert]=automenu-unambiguous
-      elif [[ -n "$_menu_style[(r)(no|false|0|off)]" ]]; then
-        compstate[insert]=unambiguous
+      else
+        sel=( "${(@M)_menu_style:#(no|false|0|off)*}" )
+
+        if (( $#sel )); then
+	  min=9999999
+          for i in "$sel[@]"; do
+            if [[ "$i" = *\=* ]]; then
+  	      num="${i#*\=}"
+  	      [[ num -lt 0 ]] && num=0
+  	    else
+  	      num=0
+  	    fi
+  	    [[ num -lt min ]] && min="$num"
+  
+	    (( min )) || break
+          done
+        else
+          min=
+        fi
+        [[ -n "$min" && nm -ge min ]] && compstate[insert]=unambiguous
       fi
     fi
   fi
Index: Doc/Zsh/compsys.yo
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/zsh/zsh/Doc/Zsh/compsys.yo,v
retrieving revision 1.77
diff -u -r1.77 compsys.yo
--- Doc/Zsh/compsys.yo	2000/06/28 09:08:03	1.77
+++ Doc/Zsh/compsys.yo	2000/06/29 07:02:04
@@ -1595,7 +1595,13 @@
 
 Using the form `tt(yes=)var(num)', where `tt(yes)' may be any of the
 true values (`tt(yes)', `tt(true)', `tt(on)' and `tt(1)') turns on
-menu completion if there at least var(num) matches.
+menu completion if there at most var(num) matches.  Using this for one
+of the `false' values (as in `tt(no=10)') makes menu completion
+em(not) be used if there are var(num) or more matches.  Of course,
+this is only useful when menu completion is normally used, e.g. by
+setting the tt(MENU_COMPLETE) option.  The `true' values may also be
+used in the form `tt(yes=long-list)' to turn on menu completion
+whenever listing is done and the list does not fit onto the screen.
 
 In addition to (or instead of) the above possibilities, the value may
 contain the string `tt(select)', optionally followed by an equal sign and a

--
Sven Wischnowsky                         wischnow@informatik.hu-berlin.de


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* Re: PATCH: Re: (forw) --help able programs and completion]
@ 2000-06-28  7:08 Sven Wischnowsky
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Sven Wischnowsky @ 2000-06-28  7:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: zsh-workers


Bart Schaefer wrote:

> On Jun 27,  5:02pm, Sven Wischnowsky wrote:
> > Subject: PATCH: Re: (forw) --help able programs and completion]
> > 
> > Bart Schaefer wrote:
> > 
> > > What I was expecting, for some reason, was that menu selection would start
> > > immediately if there were more than N matches, not wait for the second TAB
> > > that triggers automenu.
> > 
> > Ah. No, but that's easy to add.
> 
> Er, thanks, but you didn't really need to add that; all I wanted was a
> yes-or-no answer ...

It was fun writing it (and I needed something to distract me from real 
work).

> > I used the same form as for `select', i.e. one can say `yes=3' to turn 
> > on menu completion when there are at least three matches.
> 
> Hrm.
> 	zstyle ':completion:*' menu 1=3
> 
> Does that look a bit strange to anyone else?

Yes, to me (I wondered if I should point that out yesterday). But with 
the select[=val] in place this looked like a easy-to-understand
enhancement.

Another question is if it should mean `if there are less than <num>
matches, start menu completion', because menu completion (at least the 
*real* menu completion, not selection) works best with few matches.

That's easy to change, though (I'd like to get opinions from menu
completion users).

> > Does anybody now want support for `no=3'?
> 
> Which would mean ...?

If one has `setopt menucomplete', setting the menu style to one of the 
`false' values can be used to turn menu completion off for some
contexts. Allowing `no=<num>' would either mean to turn it of if there 
are more or less than <num> matches, whatever we decide `yes=<num>'
means.

> However, a plain-ol'-menu-completion variant of select=long-list might be
> interesting.

Hmhm, right.

Bye
 Sven


--
Sven Wischnowsky                         wischnow@informatik.hu-berlin.de


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* Re: PATCH: Re: (forw) --help able programs and completion]
@ 2000-06-27 15:06 Sven Wischnowsky
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Sven Wischnowsky @ 2000-06-27 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: zsh-workers


Bart Schaefer wrote:

> ...
> 
> Thanks for writing the text, but everything else in that section is
> alphabetized now.

Argh. Sorry.

Bye
 Sven


--
Sven Wischnowsky                         wischnow@informatik.hu-berlin.de


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* Re: PATCH: Re: (forw) --help able programs and completion]
  2000-06-27 13:18 Sven Wischnowsky
@ 2000-06-27 15:02 ` Bart Schaefer
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Bart Schaefer @ 2000-06-27 15:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: zsh-workers

On Jun 27,  3:18pm, Sven Wischnowsky wrote:
} Subject: PATCH: Re: (forw) --help able programs and completion]
}
} Hm. Ok, ok. Here is a patchlet that also tries to emphasize compdef
} because this is almost becoming a FAQ.

Thanks for writing the text, but everything else in that section is
alphabetized now.

This moves _use_lo into alphabetical order and also creates a separate
(very short) entry for _files in its correct alphabetical location.  (It's
easier to search for that way, in the info browser.)

Index: Doc/Zsh/compsys.yo
===================================================================
@@ -2687,25 +2687,6 @@
 Like tt(_tags) this function supports the tt(-C) option to give a
 different name for the argument context field.
 )
-findex(_use_lo)
-item(tt(_use_lo))(
-This function is a simple wrapper around the tt(_arguments) function
-described below.  It can be used to automatically complete long
-options for commands that understand the `tt(-)tt(-help)' option
-(`tt(_use_lo)' is for `use long options').  It is not intended to be
-used from completion functions but as a top-level completion function
-in its own right.  For example, to enable option completion for the
-commands tt(foo) and tt(bar), one would call:
-
-example(compdef _use_lo foo bar)
-
-in one of the initialization files after the call to tt(compinit).
-
-The default installation uses this function only to generate
-completions for some GNU-commands because to complete the options, the 
-command has to be called and hence it shouldn't be used if one can't
-be sure that the command understands the `tt(-)tt(-help)' option.
-)
 findex(_arguments)
 item(tt(_arguments) var(spec) ...)(
 This function can be used to complete words on the line by describing the
@@ -3279,6 +3260,16 @@
 a similar format; this ensures that user-specified styles are correctly
 passed down to the builtins which implement the internals of completion.
 )
+findex(_files)
+item(tt(_files))(
+The function tt(_files) uses the tt(file-patterns) style and calls
+tt(_path_files) with all the arguments it was passed except for tt(-g) 
+and tt(-/).  These two options are used depending on the setting of the 
+tt(file-patterns) style.
+
+See tt(_path_files) below for a description of the full set of options
+accepted by tt(_files).
+)
 findex(_funcall)
 item(tt(_funcall) var(return) var(name) [ var(args) ... ])(
 If a function var(name) exists, it is called with the arguments
@@ -3395,18 +3386,12 @@
 passed unchanged to the tt(compadd) builtin.
 )
 findex(_path_files)
-findex(_files)
-item(tt(_path_files) and tt(_files))(
+item(tt(_path_files))(
 The function tt(_path_files) is used throughout the completion system
 to complete filenames.  It allows completion of partial paths.  For
 example, the string `tt(/u/i/s/sig)' may be completed to
 `tt(/usr/include/sys/signal.h)'.
 
-The function tt(_files) uses the tt(file-patterns) style and calls
-tt(_path_files) with all the arguments it was passed except for tt(-g) 
-and tt(-/).  These two options are used depending on the setting of the 
-tt(file-patterns) style.
-
 The options accepted by both tt(_path_files) and tt(_files) are:
 
 startitem()
@@ -3695,6 +3680,25 @@
 tt(curcontext) parameter. This allows to make tt(_tags) use a more
 specific context name without having to change and reset the
 tt(curcontext) parameter (which would otherwise have the same effect).
+)
+findex(_use_lo)
+item(tt(_use_lo))(
+This function is a simple wrapper around the tt(_arguments) function
+described above.  It can be used to automatically complete long
+options for commands that understand the `tt(-)tt(-help)' option
+(`tt(_use_lo)' is for `use long options').  It is not intended to be
+used from completion functions but as a top-level completion function
+in its own right.  For example, to enable option completion for the
+commands tt(foo) and tt(bar), one would call:
+
+example(compdef _use_lo foo bar)
+
+in one of the initialization files after the call to tt(compinit).
+
+The default installation uses this function only to generate
+completions for some GNU-commands because to complete the options, the 
+command has to be called and hence it shouldn't be used if one can't
+be sure that the command understands the `tt(-)tt(-help)' option.
 )
 findex(_wanted)
 item(tt(_wanted) [ tt(-C) var(name) ]  [ tt(-12VJ) ] var(tag) var(name) var(descr) var(command) var(args) ...)(

-- 
Bart Schaefer                                 Brass Lantern Enterprises
http://www.well.com/user/barts              http://www.brasslantern.com

Zsh: http://www.zsh.org | PHPerl Project: http://phperl.sourceforge.net   


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* PATCH: Re: (forw) --help able programs and completion]
@ 2000-06-27 13:18 Sven Wischnowsky
  2000-06-27 15:02 ` Bart Schaefer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Sven Wischnowsky @ 2000-06-27 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: zsh-workers


[ moved to workers ]

Bart Schaefer wrote:

> ...
> 
> } The one who wrote it probably should have documented it
> } somewhere.
> } 
> } I /think/ it wasn't me this time.
> 
> This is very interesting.
> 
> The earliest mention of _use_lo in the zsh-workers archive is PWS saying
> "What happened to _use_lo?  I don't remember removing it." just before he
> made the 3.1.6-test-1 release.  That's the first time it shows up in my
> home CVS repository, too.  The ChangeLog-Release file doesn't mention it
> at all until Sven started patching it (and the entire contents except for
> the comment at the top have long been Sven's doing, even if he didn't
> create the file originally).

Hm. Ok, ok. Here is a patchlet that also tries to emphasize compdef
because this is almost becoming a FAQ.

> Of course, the ChangeLog also doesn't make any mention of when _arguments
> acquired the internals of _long_options.

Lost when moving to CVS, I guess.

Bye
 Sven

Index: Doc/Zsh/compsys.yo
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvsroot/zsh/zsh/Doc/Zsh/compsys.yo,v
retrieving revision 1.73
diff -u -r1.73 compsys.yo
--- Doc/Zsh/compsys.yo	2000/06/22 08:42:36	1.73
+++ Doc/Zsh/compsys.yo	2000/06/27 13:18:41
@@ -277,6 +277,20 @@
 )
 enditem()
 
+The tt(compdef) function is the place to turn to when one wants to
+define what the completion system should complete for a certain
+command.  The function named can of course be one of the functions
+supplied or one written by the user.  For example, if one has a
+command tt(foo) that gets process identifiers as arguments, one could
+do:
+
+example(compdef _pids foo)
+
+using the tt(_pids) function from the distribution to generate the
+process identifiers.  Not also the tt(_use_lo) function described
+below, which can be used to complete options for commands that
+understand the `tt(-)tt(-help)' option.
+
 texinode(Completion System Configuration)(Control Functions)(Initialization)(Completion System)
 sect(Completion System Configuration)
 cindex(completion system, configuration)
@@ -2672,6 +2686,25 @@
 
 Like tt(_tags) this function supports the tt(-C) option to give a
 different name for the argument context field.
+)
+findex(_use_lo)
+item(tt(_use_lo))(
+This function is a simple wrapper around the tt(_arguments) function
+described below.  It can be used to automatically complete long
+options for commands that understand the `tt(-)tt(-help)' option
+(`tt(_use_lo)' is for `use long options').  It is not intended to be
+used from completion functions but as a top-level completion function
+in its own right.  For example, to enable option completion for the
+commands tt(foo) and tt(bar), one would call:
+
+example(compdef _use_lo foo bar)
+
+in one of the initialization files after the call to tt(compinit).
+
+The default installation uses this function only to generate
+completions for some GNU-commands because to complete the options, the 
+command has to be called and hence it shouldn't be used if one can't
+be sure that the command understands the `tt(-)tt(-help)' option.
 )
 findex(_arguments)
 item(tt(_arguments) var(spec) ...)(

--
Sven Wischnowsky                         wischnow@informatik.hu-berlin.de


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