From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9163 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2007 15:50:46 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.1.7 Received: from news.dotsrc.org (HELO a.mx.sunsite.dk) (130.225.247.88) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 8 Jan 2007 15:50:46 -0000 Received-SPF: none (ns1.primenet.com.au: domain at sunsite.dk does not designate permitted sender hosts) Received: (qmail 37779 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2007 15:50:39 -0000 Received: from sunsite.dk (130.225.247.90) by a.mx.sunsite.dk with SMTP; 8 Jan 2007 15:50:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 11197 invoked by alias); 8 Jan 2007 15:50:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-workers-help@sunsite.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 23095 Received: (qmail 11188 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2007 15:50:35 -0000 Received: from news.dotsrc.org (HELO a.mx.sunsite.dk) (130.225.247.88) by sunsite.dk with SMTP; 8 Jan 2007 15:50:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 37536 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2007 15:50:35 -0000 Received: from vms046pub.verizon.net (206.46.252.46) by a.mx.sunsite.dk with SMTP; 8 Jan 2007 15:50:31 -0000 Received: from torch.brasslantern.com ([71.116.79.148]) by vms046.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JBK00F413ZPVPT1@vms046.mailsrvcs.net> for zsh-workers@sunsite.dk; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 09:50:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from torch.brasslantern.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by torch.brasslantern.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l08FoCeZ020529 for ; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 07:50:13 -0800 Received: (from schaefer@localhost) by torch.brasslantern.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l08FoChx020528 for zsh-workers@sunsite.dk; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 07:50:12 -0800 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 07:50:12 -0800 From: Bart Schaefer Subject: About debuggers To: zsh-workers@sunsite.dk Message-id: <070108075012.ZM20527@torch.brasslantern.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: OpenZMail Classic (0.9.2 24April2005) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://taint.org/2007/01/08/155838a.html One rebuttal is that adding print statements can change program behavior in subtle ways (such as masking race conditions), but then so can single- step execution.