From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20421 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2008 13:47:17 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from news.dotsrc.org (HELO a.mx.sunsite.dk) (130.225.247.88) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 30 Jul 2008 13:47:17 -0000 Received-SPF: none (ns1.primenet.com.au: domain at sunsite.dk does not designate permitted sender hosts) Received: (qmail 28010 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2008 13:47:13 -0000 Received: from sunsite.dk (130.225.247.90) by a.mx.sunsite.dk with SMTP; 30 Jul 2008 13:47:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 22743 invoked by alias); 30 Jul 2008 13:47:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-workers-help@sunsite.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 25357 Received: (qmail 22733 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2008 13:47:10 -0000 Received: from bifrost.dotsrc.org (130.225.254.106) by sunsite.dk with SMTP; 30 Jul 2008 13:47:10 -0000 Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by bifrost.dotsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92AFA802A5D4 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:47:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from torch.brasslantern.com ([96.238.220.246]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0K4T008MTN8O7CY2@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for zsh-workers@sunsite.dk; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:38:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from torch.brasslantern.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by torch.brasslantern.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m6UDclah009006 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:38:48 -0700 Received: (from schaefer@localhost) by torch.brasslantern.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m6UDckrU009005 for zsh-workers@sunsite.dk; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:38:46 -0700 Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:38:46 -0700 From: Bart Schaefer Subject: Re: trap DEBUG should get run beforehand, not afterwards. In-reply-to: <6cd6de210807300624j37ade3a3r91f1e0e03ad07188@mail.gmail.com> To: zsh-workers@sunsite.dk Message-id: <080730063846.ZM9004@torch.brasslantern.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: OpenZMail Classic (0.9.2 24April2005) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <6cd6de210807291937p5e864c38o6dd9785acf62632c@mail.gmail.com> <200807300823.m6U8Ndvs016235@news01.csr.com> <6cd6de210807300624j37ade3a3r91f1e0e03ad07188@mail.gmail.com> Comments: In reply to "Rocky Bernstein" "Re: trap DEBUG should get run beforehand, not afterwards." (Jul 30, 9:24am) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.92.1, clamav-milter version 0.92.1 on bifrost X-Virus-Status: Clean On Jul 30, 9:24am, Rocky Bernstein wrote: } } A minor quibble is that the default is set in a way that will likely } cause confusion and the learning zsh-specific remedy . Are most of the } zsh defaults set so that they are compatible with ksh88 and bash 2.05a } and before? No, they're set so that they are compatible with previous versions of zsh. You'll find, as you follow the -workers list more, that we're very concerned -- a lot more so than most OSS projects nowadays, it seems to me, but also rightly so in my opinion -- with breaking the expectations of long-time users.