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From: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>
To: zsh-workers@zsh.org
Subject: Re: have '&' automatically disown?
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2010 14:36:47 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <100207143647.ZM9122@torch.brasslantern.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201002072134.o17LYj66005365@pws-pc.ntlworld.com>

On Feb 7,  9:34pm, Peter Stephenson wrote:
} Subject: Re: have '&' automatically disown?
}
} Greg Klanderman wrote:
} > Would it make sense to just auto-disown when monitor is off?
} 
} That *does* make a lot of sense, actually: if job control's turned off,
} there's no point in half-pretending it isn't.  Disowning existing
} background jobs at that point at least makes more sense than having them
} come back in a zombified fashion.  I'll think about it tomorrow.

Disowning a job makes it immune to HUP signals, etc.  That's not what
nomonitor is for -- turning off monitor is supposed to make zsh act
like the old Bourne shell, where jobs still "belonged" to the shell
and would be HUP'd if the terminal connection dropped, but the shell
had no way move them between background and foreground.

The reason you seem to hang the shell when foregrounding a job that
was started with monitor turned off, is because jobs started without
monitoring must be immune to keyboard signals other than hangup.  The
shell is not really hung, but once the process has been forked the
shell has no way to tell it to change its SIGINT/SIGTSTP behavior to
go back to being interruptible/stoppable.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-07 22:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-05 17:01 Greg Klanderman
2010-02-05 17:33 ` Peter Stephenson
2010-02-05 17:36   ` Peter Stephenson
2010-02-06  3:26     ` Greg Klanderman
2010-02-07 18:20       ` Peter Stephenson
2010-02-07 21:06         ` Greg Klanderman
2010-02-07 21:34           ` Peter Stephenson
2010-02-07 22:36             ` Bart Schaefer [this message]
2010-09-02 14:57               ` Greg Klanderman
2010-09-05 19:11                 ` Bart Schaefer
2010-09-06  1:50                   ` Greg Klanderman
2010-02-07 21:59           ` Mikael Magnusson
     [not found] <gak@klanderman.net>
2009-06-26 20:40 ` bug in ztrftime(): '%e' and '%f' specifiers swapped Greg Klanderman
2009-06-26 21:23   ` Peter Stephenson
2009-06-26 21:57     ` Greg Klanderman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-05-17  4:55 PATCH: make PROMPT_SP end-of-line marker configurable Greg Klanderman
2009-05-17 17:27 ` Peter Stephenson
2009-05-17 18:04   ` Greg Klanderman
2009-05-17 19:23     ` Peter Stephenson
2009-05-18  1:00       ` Greg Klanderman
2009-05-18 18:27       ` Greg Klanderman
2009-01-13  7:32 treatment of empty strings - why is this not a bug? Greg Klanderman
2009-01-13 19:24 ` Peter Stephenson
2009-01-13 22:08   ` Peter Stephenson
2009-01-15 20:11     ` Greg Klanderman
2009-01-15 20:29       ` Peter Stephenson
2009-01-16 10:02         ` Peter Stephenson
2009-01-15 20:28     ` Greg Klanderman
2009-01-15 20:34       ` Peter Stephenson
2009-01-16  4:19 ` Bart Schaefer
2009-01-16 17:35   ` Greg Klanderman
2009-01-16 17:55     ` Peter Stephenson
2009-01-16 19:40       ` Greg Klanderman
2009-01-16 23:26         ` Richard Hartmann
2009-01-17  3:45         ` Bart Schaefer
2009-01-17  3:35     ` Bart Schaefer
2009-01-17  5:31       ` Greg Klanderman
2009-01-17 17:53         ` Peter Stephenson

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