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From: Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
To: Stephane Chazelas <stephane.chazelas@gmail.com>
Cc: zsh-workers@zsh.org
Subject: Re: inf and nan in arithmetic expansions
Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2018 15:31:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1518190272.2338601.1265377152.605E16CD@webmail.messagingengine.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180208142211.GA14888@chaz.gmail.com>

Stephane Chazelas wrote on Thu, 08 Feb 2018 14:22 +0000:
> 2018-02-08 12:46:35 +0000, Daniel Shahaf:
> > And then we could add 'inf' and 'nan' as readonly variables initialised to
> > those respective values (as Oliver also suggests in the 19597 thread).  There
> > are compatibility implications for scripts that use these variable names, but
> > there is no way around them if we want to allow explicitly doing (( x = inf ))
> > in user code...
> 
> But what value would you use for those variables?

'inf' would be positive infinity. 'nan' would be a NaN (whichever flavour
thereof would be least surprising).

> Or do you mean that the shell arithmetic parser would understand
> "inf"/"nan" as the infinity and not-a-number numbers and not as the
> variable (otherwise with inf=inf, that would do infinite recursion)

Why would it be recursive?

> but just make inf/nan readonly so users not be tempted to use them as
> variables?

That would be the simplest implementation, yes.  It might suffice, or we might
prefer something more elaborate.

> I'd also rather "inf" be used instead of "inf." (would also
> align with ksh93), but the change could potentially break some
> scripts. If we also make $inf/$nan read-only variables, that
> would  also break scripts that use $inf/$nan variables but not
> in arithmetic contexts (like for inf in *.inf), so that doesn't
> sound like a good idea to me.

Yes, that would be backwards incompatible.  If we choose this path,
those people can use 'for inf in...' use 'local inf' or 'local -h inf'
to hide the float inf/nan.

One option that is compatible is to make 'inf' and 'nan' only declared
on an opt-in basis --- using some autoload/zmodload, or perhaps with
some "This script requires zsh 5.5 or greater" directive.

Cheers,

Daniel


  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-09 15:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-07 22:30 Stephane Chazelas
2018-02-07 23:25 ` Oliver Kiddle
2018-02-08  9:38   ` Peter Stephenson
2018-02-08 12:46   ` Daniel Shahaf
2018-02-08 14:22     ` Stephane Chazelas
2018-02-09 15:31       ` Daniel Shahaf [this message]
2018-02-09 21:09         ` Stephane Chazelas
2018-02-10  0:10           ` Bart Schaefer
2018-02-16 16:51     ` Oliver Kiddle
2018-02-17  0:38       ` Daniel Shahaf
2018-02-19 14:19         ` Stephane Chazelas
2018-02-27 13:02       ` Vincent Lefevre
2018-02-27 15:25         ` Oliver Kiddle
2018-02-27 16:56           ` Vincent Lefevre
2018-03-21 23:46       ` Oliver Kiddle

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