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[80.223.62.132]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w23sm943123lfu.132.2021.04.10.04.23.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 10 Apr 2021 04:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.60.0.2.21\)) Subject: Re: Rewrite of zsh-newuser-install (Mikael's subthread) From: Marlon In-Reply-To: <20210407162447.GB6316@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 14:23:32 +0300 Cc: =?utf-8?B?xLBzbWFpbCBEw7ZubWV6?= , Arseny Maslennikov , Kamil Dudka , Zsh hackers list Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <15283D59-F7B5-4A4C-AFFA-B9D3BB46963F@gmail.com> References: <20210407162447.GB6316@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> To: Daniel Shahaf X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.60.0.2.21) X-Seq: 48467 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: > On 7 Apr 2021, at 19:24, Daniel Shahaf wrote: >=20 > I think there's a distinction to be drawn between "stuff we should > enable in the default zshrc" and "cool stuff that people might want to > use, or read to learn about useful tricks/features". >=20 > I agree with Mikael and Bart that most of your zshrc falls under the > latter category. That has its place (cf. Misc/vcs_info-examples), but > it's too magical for the default. >=20 > That's also one of the standard criticisms against oh-my-zsh, by the = way. I have heard many criticism against OMZ, but it being =E2=80=9Ctoo = magical=E2=80=9D is new to me. What exactly do you mean with that? >> Some quotes: >>=20 >> "this zshrc offers a lot of tricks I personally wanted to use but = didn't know they were already implemented; thanks a lot for shining a = light on them!=E2=80=9D >>=20 >> "I gave it a spin and it looks very nice, much less scary than the = default one. I've checked the default .zshrc and it looks fine to me." >=20 > If the author of the second quote wishes to join this thread, they're = of > course welcome to do so. They might change their opinion, or change > ours. I=E2=80=99ve now CC=E2=80=99d them, plus the others from which I=E2=80=99v= e gotten feedback, on this email.