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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ntlworld.com; s=meg.feb2017; t=1655195900; bh=+aLTAResGQ+kFOPaCzoiC9WP0pjIG/G3xOrvYh1oBDk=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject; b=npcTTfok2EXJYNB00WwjZ40+c3e7sknpuzJ15uQz+1DEa2qZPhkOWAkGhGeayej4U DLilv5KszBXTz2KK0+bOgh9VMw78v5hQaSxoA+YJvs5sJBYXNlt0NaPP4+c5AnUPlv nB6DVVAmgpZm5Y5sMoWoBfAhcWR5CQpOIjSRKA4r/eDrNPfv8VFMFzzojhgJv7dgZh n+4Ws9n7Ru5bNO6GvmHKvxtZerc4yrEbOAGKgNC3H023u9wL+qIhxXBbL6I0KvI1c7 NCoH/iZLx+W4AWQ5uQYmy8Imyn6gznBikfYLCX27itS/r4MdqmNn0KaJjCzfT2p0cv YjMBpFi1i4yWg== Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2022 09:38:20 +0100 (BST) From: Peter Stephenson To: zsh-workers@zsh.org Message-ID: <1593202294.844295.1655195900467@mail2.virginmedia.com> In-Reply-To: <859505016.829280.1655132641546@mail2.virginmedia.com> References: <3391D472-6F5D-481E-B114-1E0D1310ED63@kba.biglobe.ne.jp> <859505016.829280.1655132641546@mail2.virginmedia.com> Subject: Re: [PATCH] FAQ update for aliasing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Medium X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.8.4-Rev72 X-Originating-IP: 147.161.167.85 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfGE8grcbGxOkZCRAscE/TpoEiYIMCl6d1iv2cOJ/wQzY8qSqL4Gmfyj2LM/ELxg4JL/U/mTzE2g4gr9QeVhcFvxt3g5RQWfHZvRqn+bQEGLDq7RNUWNK KCLzMBCNLsTP7YhE2MdwqEgttkfb8QnRZU2XoWVikV6K2O2A+k4+xkqa8mnQ4y0wbppyRI3Nnok58vZmL3k30TI3L/748shyjOXr8pP8iwgl6eyNPEsw5M8h X-Seq: 50372 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: > On 13 June 2022 at 16:04 Peter Stephenson wrote: > > On 13 June 2022 at 15:58 "Jun. T" wrote: > > Could someone please update Usenet-related info and URLs if they > > are obsolete? > > Yes, I think I can just delete them. This hasn't been posted anywhere > apart from our own website for donkey's years. It's so much easier to search for things than it used to be that giving actual links to systems outside our control is probably actively unhelpful. diff --git a/Etc/FAQ.yo b/Etc/FAQ.yo index ebe86c202..8c795685a 100644 --- a/Etc/FAQ.yo +++ b/Etc/FAQ.yo @@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ def(myeit)(0)(\ def(myeitd)(0)(\ whenlatex(eit())whenhtml(eit())whenman(eit())whenms(eit())whensgml(eit())\ whentxt(.))\ -COMMENT(-- don't want headers for text, USENET headers must come first --)\ +COMMENT(-- don't want headers for text --)\ def(myreport)(3)(\ whentxt(report()()())\ whenhtml(report(ARG1)(ARG2)(ARG3))\ @@ -63,14 +63,6 @@ IFDEF(txt)(\ PUSHMACRO(PARAGRAPH)(0)(SYMBOLVALUE(XXparagraph))\ )() myreport(Z-Shell Frequently-Asked Questions)(Peter Stephenson)(2010/02/15) -COMMENT(-- the following are for Usenet and must appear first)\ -description(\ -mydit(Archive-Name:) unix-faq/shell/zsh -mydit(Last-Modified:) 2020/08/08 -mydit(Submitted-By:) email(coordinator@zsh.org (Peter Stephenson)) -mydit(Posting-Frequency:) Monthly -mydit(Copyright:) (C) P.W. Stephenson, 1995--2020 (see end of document) -) This document contains a list of frequently-asked (or otherwise significant) questions concerning the Z-shell, a command interpreter @@ -191,23 +183,6 @@ url(https://zsh.sourceforge.io/FAQ/)(https://zsh.sourceforge.io/FAQ/) . can be found at url(https://zsh.sourceforge.io/FAQ/zshfaq.txt) (https://zsh.sourceforge.io/FAQ/zshfaq.txt) . - Another useful source of information is the collection of FAQ articles - posted frequently to the Usenet news groups comp.unix.questions, - comp.unix.shells and comp.answers with answers to general questions - about UNIX. The fifth of the seven articles deals with shells, - including zsh, with a brief description of differences. There is - also a separate FAQ on shell differences and how to change your - shell. Usenet FAQs are available via FTP from rtfm.mit.edu and - mirrors and also on the World Wide Web; see - description( - mydit(USA) url(http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/top.html) - (http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/top.html) - mydit(UK) url(http://www.lib.ox.ac.uk/internet/news/faq/comp.unix.shell.html) - (http://www.lib.ox.ac.uk/internet/news/faq/comp.unix.shell.html) - mydit(Netherlands) url(http://www.cs.uu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/unix-faq/shell/.html) - (http://www.cs.uu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/unix-faq/shell/.html) - ) - You can also get it via email by emailing \ email(mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu) with, in the body of the message, mytt(send faqs/unix-faq/shell/zsh). @@ -439,8 +414,7 @@ chapter(How does zsh differ from...?) As has already been mentioned, zsh is most similar to ksh, while many of the additions are to please csh users. Here are some more detailed -notes. See also the article `UNIX shell differences and how to change -your shell' posted frequently to the USENET group comp.unix.shell. +notes. sect(Differences from sh and ksh) label(21) @@ -898,10 +872,7 @@ sect(Shouldn't zsh be more/less like ksh/(t)csh?) tt(CSH_JUNKIE) options. This argument still holds. On the other hand, the arguments for having what is close to a plug-in replacement for ksh are, if anything, even more powerful: the deficiencies of csh as a - programming language are well known (look in any Usenet FAQ archive, e.g. - url(http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/unix-faq/\ - shell/csh-whynot/faq.html) -(http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/faq.html) + programming language are well known (search for tt(csh-whynot) if you are in any doubt) and zsh is able to run many standard scripts such as /etc/rc. @@ -2517,7 +2488,7 @@ label(62) Mail email(sympa@zsh.org?subject=help) for detailed information. Administrative matters are best sent to email(zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org). - + Note that this location changed in August 2020, and the instructions to go with it are slightly different. @@ -2525,9 +2496,6 @@ label(62) url(http://www.zsh.org/mla/)(http://www.zsh.org/mla/) at the main zsh archive site. - Of course, you can also post zsh queries to the Usenet group - comp.unix.shell; if all else fails, you could even e-mail me. - sect(What's on the wish-list?) The code bears the marks of the ages and many things could be done much