From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25896 invoked by alias); 5 Jul 2016 16:29:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-workers-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Workers List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 38802 Received: (qmail 3466 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2016 16:29:44 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=brasslantern-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:message-id:date:in-reply-to:comments:references:to:subject :mime-version; bh=6spwth9YGuY2/BqczNMtjLA+DjExq0Cv5+OSVWBsNnA=; b=gPdSpPsaTkWCjRy977XKfj74aQ3MOTOrYJ4ocS9JgdKeMuyObAhN1JCYbVtcjWfL44 kbxx+jK0lWGseURzTnUUEJsuwTgYr+dNo68NdQVg72BW5LKBdPEpZuGrM7yMCIiBBVJn GWsArOo9td3ofMs44p8GDY4o90gWpMGk28QeJ5pEduuO5YBDsVzOY0lVaXIvgKZa4Rqh GIyJtgdI4Qme0FyWcU2xx33nlSD56umKLHPXYB8lS3pMVGHdvBDQX/Wd6wAHwgeCOT9I +PrEdKNZg+4sWLkBBK+PJy5L5lUrh/JOU1TeMMcVti7KNfCKqdSnZj6AoURv2RSZ9/4p 81aQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:date:in-reply-to:comments :references:to:subject:mime-version; bh=6spwth9YGuY2/BqczNMtjLA+DjExq0Cv5+OSVWBsNnA=; b=TIBO5arkMsiRTNn1JFHAMHPRwwKIE4uU5aw4SdC/w3gR9R+rw3NxtIZUETszXzkMoy Mx0PUrOnVrQMAvaA6RYQo/1i8lgX9EwgbIUhge0RfgibswZt0Qd2dLnWI3CQoTD5l143 fgRPSd4a882dg8OIFoiNo6oTC+T4jLozc8+xtregA21kZyqTjth0X7RfBD7+o4JYCwQE h0V9WtbjVqu6dzn/vKil7z/5zFPFZI+Ce2vZSNlVlq1Xe6mr4uT1yXFQDQoA4F9wUGpy MVTTHQMGnhEA1OhaY2D/sbBAFex6sAnKAIlOD5h+c/phD59qiK+8EIS9AMPXMKeT5jmP l4Xg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJLoX+igZ+uxxljzx64KEBPPFVJZI5RMtIplACbJzcWgv4cFk7qnlxIB33U3tbBtA== X-Received: by 10.66.13.68 with SMTP id f4mr32093906pac.102.1467736180708; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 09:29:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Bart Schaefer Message-Id: <160705092948.ZM16622@torch.brasslantern.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 09:29:48 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20160705124832.342d9e48@pwslap01u.europe.root.pri> Comments: In reply to Peter Stephenson "Re: Next release (5.3)" (Jul 5, 12:48pm) References: <20160704114016.190f48be@pwslap01u.europe.root.pri> <160704080424.ZM12848@torch.brasslantern.com> <20160705093321.79d7c4bc@pwslap01u.europe.root.pri> <20160705124832.342d9e48@pwslap01u.europe.root.pri> X-Mailer: OpenZMail Classic (0.9.2 24April2005) To: "Zsh Hackers' List" Subject: Re: Next release (5.3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jul 5, 12:48pm, Peter Stephenson wrote: } Subject: Re: Next release (5.3) } } > > (1) Daniel's suggested change to :A [care to offer an opinion?] } } Thinking out loud, don't take any notice... } } It would be possible to add a different letter for this. However, I } think you're still faced with asking what the user actually expects } from the paths they use, which comes back to the option settings. That's actually sort of the point -- the option settings are to have CHASE_DOTS unset by default, but :A behaves as if CHASE_DOTS is set, so it's actually inverted from what the options indicate the user is expecting. Sure, we could add another modifier [maybe :L mneme "ls -L"? Except confusion with :l and with (L) which has always been an oddball] but then you have the seemingly unnecessary case that :a:L is :A and that :L:a may mean something entirely different. Having written that, though, it would seem that if :L might still leave ".." in the path (? is that what happens when the symlink is itself ".."-relative?) then maybe :L is actually needed and even the proposed change to the :A default is inadequate for all cases.