From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6088 invoked by alias); 11 Dec 2016 09:29:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-workers-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Workers List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 40152 Received: (qmail 29452 invoked from network); 11 Dec 2016 09:29:45 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from mail-vk0-f46.google.com by f.primenet.com.au (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.99.2/21882. spamassassin: 3.4.1. Clear:RC:0(209.85.213.46):SA:0(-0.0/5.0):. Processed in 1.95109 secs); 11 Dec 2016 09:29:45 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Envelope-From: schaefer@brasslantern.com X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | Received-SPF: pass (ns1.primenet.com.au: SPF record at _netblocks.google.com designates 209.85.213.46 as permitted sender) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=brasslantern-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:message-id:date:in-reply-to:comments:references:to:subject :mime-version; bh=H8SGZJqoUB3U8UBtJuORFt0pw1m9VXnSL4Qe1WqEGmc=; b=WpaLzGeAnxUtBMf3rHSm1jEf0lhxMVtvkNZPrOiXmGbNNwTxnqT6g/X8pscpg/EXxq D/Gl4Q2w2Q/aAIUkLn83nhepM3xrmiSQmJn/+kvGPlhFeEp3y6uPzehXsBXRtHxgeF9U xlZwvMMbWVvM33BgaxDsfddzwviWKbFKXZw5sFki+wIoFtuNdsDUvOzB+GWbtFW3OV7Y welSsPPWGq1I4/ml3pHChnX/rB6+s4UmAwehBR7/dhwsoNENAi20Z0pycBVgU5E1XV5X QWxMdaA0piR8GrV079MTaWcQdR+qZQbQupadfD1pL+++mrPD/hsHjNU8IJnmq4evHAvb 76yg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:date:in-reply-to:comments :references:to:subject:mime-version; bh=H8SGZJqoUB3U8UBtJuORFt0pw1m9VXnSL4Qe1WqEGmc=; b=LYyWliTr6ciT55BQvAL1h1D8DmWwz9QCrUAiksPpXQAiyBp3gPYNyglLwaUk+SNMzo BMB5axM0MCQSg7ZudZ/YbntCDWk7InYWfuPCzGGVOPdL+9o3V9klM29nW3Qekqbwe9wg J78/OxrHOdSlJAj2mutyVtY5dwY3QayjjJzkmwgCjup0IlbJ2mcwrxzf1AY1N0oUjdyA BLgmpPhH5VUTykRNqvDvc5hDXz6b2k/y+fL8Q91UoR4iJwSVVg3k034Gzj50FDBBlS6A E5TYjYnLT5Yc6ZZZ9aP7CFsIqR784lddTmYsDQP0SXKkevcICdK78w5fbjXMi0dACD8g BW0g== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC03+bzmpN01Qx9ue1UeqznxdNvSMkviCI5A7MNYKesDRN63BNdPQMmDc5sQPwiHpNQ== X-Received: by 10.31.11.145 with SMTP id 139mr34946572vkl.141.1481448575334; Sun, 11 Dec 2016 01:29:35 -0800 (PST) From: Bart Schaefer Message-Id: <161211012956.ZM27197@torch.brasslantern.com> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 01:29:56 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20161211043221.GA11489@fujitsu.shahaf.local2> Comments: In reply to Daniel Shahaf "Re: off topic" (Dec 11, 4:32am) References: <20161209122958.GD19559@256bit.org> <57127.1481294647@hydra.kiddle.eu> <584AC8AC.9050406@eastlink.ca> <62522.1481300922@hydra.kiddle.eu> <584AEDBF.2050402@eastlink.ca> <161209165454.ZM9226@torch.brasslantern.com> <95362.1481338226__15466.9970310808$1481338718$gmane$org@hydra.kiddle.eu> <20161211043221.GA11489@fujitsu.shahaf.local2> X-Mailer: OpenZMail Classic (0.9.2 24April2005) To: zsh-workers@zsh.org Subject: Plugin conventions (was zsh-users Re: off topic) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Dec 11, 4:32am, Daniel Shahaf wrote: } Subject: Re: off topic } } Oliver Kiddle wrote on Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 03:50:26 +0100: } > The omz convention seems to be a single file with the extension } > .plugin.zsh which is sourced but there may be more to it than that. } > We also need to think about the order in which commands are run. } } Whatever convention we come up with, can we please arrange for the } plugin's code to be parsed without user options and/or aliases in } effect? Sebastian's plugin manager goes to quite some lengths to handle this, as I recall, including keeping deltas of the option changes so that any option changes made by the plugin are preserved. An outline of a simplistic approach to same (I like using zstyle to avoid having to invent safe parameter names): { zstyle plugin-manager user-options "${(kv)options[@]}" zstyle plugin-manager user-aliases "${(kv)aliases[@]}" emulate -R zsh noglob unalias -m * if source some.plugin.zsh then zstyle plugin-manager some.plugin-options "${(kv)options[@]}" zstyle plugin-manager some.plugin-aliases "${(kv)aliases[@]}" fi } always { zstyle -a plugin-manager user-options options zstyle -a plugin-manager user-aliases aliases # ... and then merge in the deltas ... } Another tricky bit is that the plugin might want to know what the user's options were, so would have to be aware of how the plugin manager has saved them.