From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18730 invoked by alias); 25 Dec 2016 18:06:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-workers-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Workers List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 40235 Received: (qmail 14027 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2016 18:06:23 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from mail-ua0-f179.google.com by f.primenet.com.au (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.99.2/21882. spamassassin: 3.4.1. Clear:RC:0(209.85.217.179):SA:0(-0.0/5.0):. Processed in 1.184967 secs); 25 Dec 2016 18:06:23 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,SPF_PASS,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Envelope-From: schaefer@brasslantern.com X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | Received-SPF: pass (ns1.primenet.com.au: SPF record at _netblocks.google.com designates 209.85.217.179 as permitted sender) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=brasslantern-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:message-id:date:in-reply-to:comments:references:to:subject :mime-version; bh=hxVEwwI0J80Aj5BXIY54vYvNtY1OCpVbshSi8zPtNeM=; b=rx9q9T6kLuTYjsKODafQvyBOLZQB9cmO30sYD+RDiVm76noxr11W9zH/mb3kXPlyq4 eFDtiposjiYhABwLzEMaHluzQYQkkMvd8VfJWjNkOK1HYwhQqWZqgk2e05zVt8t1CoQw EPD5noCiRymT5mEMau6RnI0WEMQBqyyB3C3gQHUHK3u9YZPg8q4UjRXefbCOjqBsB5Y0 cBjBuN85GLa8OUgcZ+KZ4YX24n920nVn2CgCEbJRqBvAwqihuwU2bf64fTCREPum4aSR yqnO/qsaqIdp+W/JNw55U1FB7lxRAxmyyvbG06uVxV7GYqKvZfIyeKEXo/TuYTTE0mEh DaZw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:date:in-reply-to:comments :references:to:subject:mime-version; bh=hxVEwwI0J80Aj5BXIY54vYvNtY1OCpVbshSi8zPtNeM=; b=kEUH7CgmMwN5OUob0Uq3UoGIHdIN9lDZYlvquEQOooHpl4A3DCl/4bvCC1nIwtSeMx a3unJlaiyQHDRYPfAp7TESxNCxh/feLS+CUp1P7DPwIQevYHrpFBi4OW1eAEstzHoXDT pUCI856CCxyJ+Elem390+HQXmO4IU/XceNk5usJ9tf0c0NGb1LPJlEj7DJloBV+CZSl+ CXkc8fioKdaYi8reTTbqSkYqVc338CEf66YgtepjDI/Kp6QsSVOTC/eTFhSvvHFbE2Ds vCaqWRnaDOsxSteG4LZRcrWjm6LLxZSLQ9+tNgtE19Z33nE727xnxWUtJe0Pzbwd2Bep FFrQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXI7eRFZ73teih4wLe2QCIgzRCO4Qd0gg3j2hTlU3vgJFtELNl9KCahATGd8RnUBXw== X-Received: by 10.176.0.181 with SMTP id 50mr16413909uaj.103.1482689174692; Sun, 25 Dec 2016 10:06:14 -0800 (PST) From: Bart Schaefer Message-Id: <161225100619.ZM26202@torch.brasslantern.com> Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2016 10:06:19 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20161225023331.GA10957@fujitsu.shahaf.local2> Comments: In reply to Daniel Shahaf "Re: [PATCH] Remove SH_USE_BSD_ECHO autoconf test." (Dec 25, 2:33am) References: <1482601418-17984-1-git-send-email-danielsh@fujitsu.shahaf.local2> <161224135231.ZM29868@torch.brasslantern.com> <20161225023331.GA10957@fujitsu.shahaf.local2> X-Mailer: OpenZMail Classic (0.9.2 24April2005) To: zsh-workers@zsh.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove SH_USE_BSD_ECHO autoconf test. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Dec 25, 2:33am, Daniel Shahaf wrote: } } This output shows that the debian package of zsh is not reproducible } (in the sense of https://www.reproducible-builds.org/ - bit-for-bit } identical artifacts). because it contains config.h whose contents } depend on what /bin/sh is at build time. IMO this is just stupid. config.h is not an output of the build, it's an intermediate step which in this case is irrelevant. It shouldn't have been included in the checksum in the first place -- or conversely it shouldn't have been included in the debian package. Further the whole point of "configure" is to produce results that might vary based on the buid environment. Reproducibility should only apply downstream of configuration, if it's to have any value at all.