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Thu, 31 Mar 2022 19:31:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.7.0-alpha0-382-g88b93171a9-fm-20220330.001-g88b93171 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <17292100-61f9-4183-8d04-6f8443f3c2f7@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <526109583.788642.1648724722076@mail2.virginmedia.com> References: <2edcc9b8-6877-40d3-b2c1-158fafeed806@www.fastmail.com> <1b9eb6a0-f9bb-42c2-9ff8-8c9a61e6e4ce@www.fastmail.com> <526109583.788642.1648724722076@mail2.virginmedia.com> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2022 23:31:36 +0000 From: "Daniel Shahaf" To: zsh-workers@zsh.org Subject: Re: We should get 5.9** out soon Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Seq: 49949 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Peter Stephenson wrote on Thu, 31 Mar 2022 11:05 +00:00: >> On 31 March 2022 at 11:47 Daniel Shahaf wrot= e: >> dana wrote on Thu, 31 Mar 2022 00:34 +00:00: >> > On Wed 30 Mar 2022, at 11:51, Bart Schaefer wrote: >> >> Lots of accumulated fixes, but probably the most important is to >> >> un-break line-buffered input (workers/49792), since that problem w= as >> >> introduced by the 5.8.1 security release. >>=20 >> I don't think the regression in 5.8.1 is a reason to release a 5.9; i= t's >> only a reason to release a 5.8.2. That could have a shorter pre-rele= ase >> testing period ("soak"), and wouldn't force people to choose between = the >> regression in 5.8.1 and any as-yet-undiscovered regressions 5.9 might >> feature (which is more likely than usual because of how large the >> 5.8=E2=86=925.9 diff is). > > The logic is entirely reasonable, but in practice I think stopgap fixes > are likely just to put things off further. I think it's worth getting > out 5.9(?) and seeing if there's still a market for backporting non-se= curity > fixes to 5.8.2 --- there may not be. (This may be the sort of thinking > Bart had in mind.) > Sure, I wouldn't mind that. I just figured it wouldn't be desirable to delay release of the regression fix until 5.9's soak is over. (We could release 5.8.2 next week if we wanted to, but a 5.9 that's >2 years after 5.8 will likely want to be tested for longer than that.) > We've never required an incompatible change to bump the major number b= efore > (there's often been one anyway), but given there's no single determine= r it's > something you might well take into account. (Nothing to add to this topic at the moment.) Cheers, Daniel