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From: Anthony Heading <aheading@jpmorgan.com>
To: schaefer@z-code.ncd.com
Cc: zsh-workers@math.gatech.edu
Subject: Re: History file locking?
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:03:33 +0100 (BST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <199604101803.TAA00736@gmp-etpres1.uk.jpmorgan.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <960410101252.ZM16289@zyrcon.z-code.com> from "Barton E. Schaefer" at Apr 10, 96 10:12:52 am

Bart wrote:
> I think this one falls in the category of "if you can do it with an
> external process, it doesn't belong in the shell".

I understand the principle. And maybe you're right.  But zsh doesn't
rely much on /bin/[ for example.  Defence to the charge of featuritis:
  o  Not very much code
  o  Merely providing public access to a feature motivated by internal need
  o  Internalising would often allow more reliable/easier lock release.
  o  Lockfiles are a natural adjunct to shell programming
  o  Resulting portability of lockfile-utilising user scripts

One could bundle a separate implementation of 'lockfile' with zsh, I
guess.  But that feels a bit extreme.  Just because zsh is maybe biased
toward the 'bloated' end of the shell market doesn't mean we need to
become reactionary neo-minimalists to compensate.  Who uses rc anyhow?

I dunno. Just thought I'd flag the idea, no more than that.

Anthony



  reply	other threads:[~1996-04-10 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1996-04-10 10:31 Russell Senior
1996-04-10 12:12 ` Zefram
1996-04-10 12:41   ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-04-10 12:50     ` Zefram
     [not found]       ` <A.Main@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>
1996-04-10 16:26         ` Barton E. Schaefer
1996-04-10 17:08           ` Anthony Heading
     [not found]             ` <aheading@jpmorgan.com>
1996-04-10 17:12               ` Barton E. Schaefer
1996-04-10 18:03                 ` Anthony Heading [this message]
1996-06-05 21:25         ` Builtin append() and prepend() to PATH, CDPATH, etc Bart Schaefer
     [not found]           ` <schaefer@candle.brasslantern.com>
1996-06-10 19:22             ` Clinton Bunch
1996-06-10 19:54               ` Bart Schaefer
1996-06-10 20:24                 ` Hrvoje Niksic
1996-06-10 20:58             ` Clinton Bunch
1996-06-24 18:26             ` BUG: useheap in doexpandhist() Barton E. Schaefer
1996-06-24 19:11               ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-06-24 21:20                 ` Barton E. Schaefer
1996-06-25  0:01                   ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-06-25  0:22                     ` Barton E. Schaefer
1996-07-23 20:01             ` Bug in case stmt with '(' Morris M. Siegel
1996-07-23 21:55               ` Bart Schaefer
1996-07-24  8:29                 ` Zefram
1996-07-24  9:52                 ` Peter Stephenson
1996-07-24 11:10         ` Bart Schaefer
1996-07-24 14:16           ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-04-10 21:21       ` History file locking? Zoltan Hidvegi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-04-27 19:54 comptest* failed to load module: zsh/termcap Peter Whaite
2001-04-28  6:10 ` Bart Schaefer
2001-04-28  8:55   ` Andrej Borsenkow
2001-04-30 15:44     ` Peter Whaite
2001-04-30 16:30       ` Bart Schaefer
2001-04-30 16:47         ` Andrej Borsenkow
2001-04-30 17:16           ` PATCH: " Bart Schaefer
2001-04-30 18:54         ` Peter Whaite
2001-04-30 19:12           ` Bart Schaefer
2001-04-30 15:32   ` Peter Whaite
1997-01-31 10:47 history-search-backward Peter Stephenson
1997-01-31 12:16 ` history-search-backward Zefram
1997-01-31 12:42   ` history-search-backward Peter Stephenson
1997-01-31 15:02     ` history-search-backward Bart Schaefer
1997-01-31 15:23       ` history-search-backward Vinnie Shelton
1997-01-31 19:02     ` history-search-backward Zoltan Hidvegi
1997-01-31 19:13 ` history-search-backward Wayne Davison
1996-12-13  2:30 fifo configure check Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-10-31 14:41 Parameter expansion bug? Anthony Heading
1996-10-31 15:13 ` Hrvoje Niksic
1996-10-31 16:12 ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-10-31 20:49   ` Anthony Heading
     [not found] <17651.199607222123@stone.dcs.warwick.ac.uk>
1996-07-23 14:08 ` Bug in case stmt with '(' Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-07-23 16:25   ` Bart Schaefer
1996-06-22 20:12 BUG: useheap in doexpandhist() Bart Schaefer
1996-06-02 17:59 Builtin append() and prepend() to PATH, CDPATH, etc Fung-Chai Lim
1996-06-02 21:26 ` Zoltan Hidvegi
     [not found]   ` <1062.199606041027@stone.dcs.warwick.ac.uk>
1996-03-12 19:03 Buffered stderr on Linux Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-03-12 19:24 ` Bart Schaefer
1996-03-12 20:26   ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-03-12 23:17   ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-03-13  0:16     ` Steven L Baur
     [not found]     ` <hzoli@cs.elte.hu>
1996-03-16 18:46       ` Bart Schaefer
1996-04-10 21:41       ` History file locking? Barton E. Schaefer
1996-04-10 22:16         ` Daniel Dignam
1996-06-26 13:51       ` Use of qualifiers without glob pattern? Bart Schaefer
1996-06-26 14:01         ` Regression tests Bas V. de Bakker
1996-06-26 14:52         ` Use of qualifiers without glob pattern? Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-06-26 15:54           ` Bart Schaefer
1996-06-27  1:03             ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-10-31 16:55       ` Parameter expansion bug? Bart Schaefer
1996-10-31 16:57         ` Hrvoje Niksic
1996-10-31 17:04         ` Zoltan Hidvegi
1996-10-31 17:47           ` Bart Schaefer
1996-12-13  3:37       ` fifo configure check Bart Schaefer
1996-12-13  8:58         ` fifo configure check (seems to work here: Solaris 2.4) C. v. Stuckrad
1996-12-13 14:44         ` fifo configure check Zefram
1996-12-13 17:33           ` Zoltan Hidvegi
     [not found]       ` <wayne@clari.net>
1997-01-31 22:01         ` history-search-backward Bart Schaefer

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