From: Bruce Stephens <B.Stephens@isode.com>
To: zsh-workers@math.gatech.edu (Zsh hackers list)
Subject: Re: PATCH: 3.1.2-zefram3: history completion
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:57:49 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <199801161656.LAA24885@math.gatech.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:02:03 +0100." <199801161602.RAA04256@hydra.ifh.de>
pws@ifh.de said:
> This is what I was referring to when I suggested having a widget
> associated with a particular compctl (or, equivalently, allowing a
> direct form of compctl in a zle function). If it happens (which means
> if Zefram has time to do it) it will require fiddling through the
> manual before use, and consequently 99% of users will never know it
> exists, some fraction of which would otherwise have used it.
Indeed. There's a (minimal) danger that things split (like emacs/xemacs),
with some people feeling that the base installation ought to be relatively
small but very configurable, and others feeling that the default installation
ought to present users with a more functionally rich product.
I think there's a bit of a danger with the minimalist view that zsh OOTB might
look identical to ksh, in which case why would users bother to look further?
On the other hand, there's a danger that zsh might be horribly slow as a
scripting shell because of all the wacky features that are nice for
interactive users, or where it's just about impossible to remove the default
features that annoy you without removing everything.
Presumably there's some compromise where people can build/install zsh and get
a nice shell with some useful completions, useful zle behaviour, and possibly
even a useful prompt. Maybe a graphical/menu driven configuration tool for
newish users which helps to set up template .zsh* files. (I think there
already is such a tool somewhere or other; if it's any good maybe the zsh docs
should point at it.)
A (probably graphical) tool which introduced all of the features of zsh, and
automatically configured those chosen would be quite nice. Every now and
again I read through the docs, and notice some unexpected feature I didn't
know about. Imagine how daunting zsh must be to users used to csh, or
COMMAND.COM.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~1998-01-16 17:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
1998-01-16 10:52 pws
1998-01-16 15:24 ` Andrej Borsenkow
1998-01-16 16:02 ` Peter Stephenson
1998-01-16 16:57 ` Bruce Stephens [this message]
1998-01-16 17:26 ` Andrew Main
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