Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)

Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)

[Peter Stephenson]

Adam Spiers wrote:
> Peter now has full permissions to everything.  I've set up things
> minimally but have no time until Thursday to do anything else, so
> Peter, if you want to take over feel free.  Otherwise I'll start
> setting up the repository then.

Yes, please, that would be great.  I'll update the CVS stuff when it's in
place (I'm assuming you have the transfer of Tanaka Akira's backnumbers in
hand).

> Bart and Sven will presumably want to
> register accounts soon so they can join in the fun ...

And potentially Zefram if he's got any time/inclination.

barts and wischnow are now developers in group zsh.  Let me/Adam know if I
haven't assigned the right permissions.

> Do we want to keep the mailing lists and web pages hosted at
> sunsite.auc.dk?

I can't see a good reason for shifting them for now.  It would be quite
good to have incoming mail forwarded from Sourceforge, which would mean
people who don't subscribe, but are using Sourceforge, can send messages
without worrying whether they're in Denmark or California.

-- 
Peter Stephenson <pws@pwstephenson.fsnet.co.uk>
Work: pws@CambridgeSiliconRadio.com
Web: http://www.pwstephenson.fsnet.co.uk

SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)

[Adam Spiers]

Success ...

Peter now has full permissions to everything.  I've set up things
minimally but have no time until Thursday to do anything else, so
Peter, if you want to take over feel free.  Otherwise I'll start
setting up the repository then.  Bart and Sven will presumably want to
register accounts soon so they can join in the fun ...

Do we want to keep the mailing lists and web pages hosted at
sunsite.auc.dk?

----- Forwarded message from noreply@sourceforge.net -----

Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:38:44 -0800
To: adam@spiers.net
Subject: SourceForge Project Approved
From: noreply@sourceforge.net

Your project registration for SourceForge has been approved. 

Project Full Name:  zsh
Project Unix Name:  zsh
CVS Server:         cvs.zsh.sourceforge.net
Shell/Web Server:   zsh.sourceforge.net

Your DNS will take up to a day to become active on our site. Your shell
accounts will become active at the next 6-hour cron update. While
waiting for your DNS to resolve, you may try shelling into
shell1.sourceforge.net and pointing CVS to cvs1.sourceforge.net.

If after six hours your shell accounts still do not work, please
open a support ticket so that we may take a look at the problem.
Please note that all shell accounts are closed to telnet and only
work with SSH1.

Your web site is accessible through your shell account. Directory
information will be displayed immediately after logging in.

Please take some time to read the site documentation about project
administration. If you visit your own project page in SourceForge
while logged in, you will find additional menu functions to your left
labeled "Project Administrator". 

We highly suggest that you now visit SourceForge and create a public
description for your project. This can be done by visiting your project
page while logged in, and selecting 'Project Admin' from the menus
on the left.

Enjoy the system, and please tell others about SourceForge. Let us know
if there is anything we can do to help you.

 -- the SourceForge crew


----- End forwarded message -----

Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)

[Bart Schaefer]

On Mar 29, 12:11am, Adam Spiers wrote:
} Subject: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)
}
} Bart and Sven will presumably want to register accounts soon

I've got one; it's "barts" because "schaefer" was taken.

} Do we want to keep the mailing lists and web pages hosted at
} sunsite.auc.dk?

For now, I think so.  Nothing's seriously broken and I fear that trying
to move it would cause something to become so (not by any fault of
sourceforge's, but nevertheless).

-- 
Bart Schaefer                                 Brass Lantern Enterprises
http://www.well.com/user/barts              http://www.brasslantern.com

Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)

[Geoff Wing]

Peter Stephenson <pws@pwstephenson.fsnet.co.uk> typed:
:> Do we want to keep the mailing lists and web pages hosted at
:> sunsite.auc.dk?
:I can't see a good reason for shifting them for now.  It would be quite
:good to have incoming mail forwarded from Sourceforge, which would mean
:people who don't subscribe, but are using Sourceforge, can send messages
:without worrying whether they're in Denmark or California.

The problem here would be with using/keeping mail message numbers.  Karsten
has set up sunsite.auc.dk to keep the same number system we had with
Richard Coleman (math.gatech.edu):  i.e. individual numbering in each list,
and messages to one list don't get message numbers in sublists.  Most
mail software can't do this.  Of course if we don't want to reference
message numbers any more...

Regards,
-- 
Geoff Wing : <gcw@pobox.com>     Work URL: http://www.primenet.com.au/
Rxvt Stuff : <gcw@rxvt.org>      Ego URL : http://pobox.com/~gcw/
Zsh Stuff  : <gcw@zsh.org>       Phone   : (Australia) 0413 431 874

Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)

[Zefram]

Peter Stephenson wrote:
>> Bart and Sven will presumably want to
>> register accounts soon so they can join in the fun ...
>
>And potentially Zefram if he's got any time/inclination.

As of a couple of days ago, I've got a SourceForge account (cunningly
named "zefram").  Is there any interface more usable than this web hack?
Quite apart from the basic interface issues, having to use cookies is
a serious inconvenience for me[1].

>barts and wischnow are now developers in group zsh.  Let me/Adam know if I
>haven't assigned the right permissions.

Can you add me to this group, please?

-zefram

[1] I use Lynx.  Lynx sucks ass, but for interactive web browsing
it's far superior to any of the alternatives I've seen, unfortunately.
AFAICS, the only way to have cookie handling disabled by default[2] is to
have cookie handling *completely* disabled.  So I normally have cookies
completely disabled, and I have to modify my configuration temporarily
to use SourceForge.

[2] Which I insist on -- I'm not prepared to explicitly say `no' for
every cookie that arrives.

Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)

[Dan Nelson]

In the last episode (Mar 30), Zefram said:
> [1] I use Lynx.  Lynx sucks ass, but for interactive web browsing
> it's far superior to any of the alternatives I've seen, unfortunately.
> AFAICS, the only way to have cookie handling disabled by default[2] is to
> have cookie handling *completely* disabled.  So I normally have cookies
> completely disabled, and I have to modify my configuration temporarily
> to use SourceForge.

Edit your .lynxrc and change the cookie_accept_domains line to read:

cookie_accept_domains= .sourceforge.net

That should work.

-- 
	Dan Nelson
	dnelson@emsphone.com

Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)

[Bart Schaefer]

On Mar 30, 10:03am, Dan Nelson wrote:
} Subject: Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)
}
} In the last episode (Mar 30), Zefram said:
} > AFAICS, the only way to have cookie handling disabled by default[2] is to
} > have cookie handling *completely* disabled.  So I normally have cookies
} > completely disabled, and I have to modify my configuration temporarily
} > to use SourceForge.
} 
} Edit your .lynxrc

SourceForge also causes problems for Internet Explorer because all the
cookies are for the "valinux.com" domain even though "sourceforge.net"
is the issuing server.  IE won't accept those cookies except on "low"
security setting.  One needs to choose Tools->Internet Options, select
the Security tab, click the Trusted Sites icon, then click the Sites...
button and add https://www.sourceforge.net ...

(I've got Win98 running under vmware on my linux box now.  Pretty cool.)

-- 
Bart Schaefer                                 Brass Lantern Enterprises
http://www.well.com/user/barts              http://www.brasslantern.com

Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)

[Zefram]

Dan Nelson wrote:
>Edit your .lynxrc and change the cookie_accept_domains line to read:
>
>cookie_accept_domains= .sourceforge.net
>
>That should work.

That lets it accept cookies from that domain without asking.  That works;
I've experimented with that feature before.  The problem is that I
don't see any way to set the *default* behaviour.  The only way to get
the default to be to ignore cookies, AFAICT, is to use the command line
"-cookies" option, which disables *all* cookie handling, regardless of
the cookie_accept_domains setting.  Thus I can't get the behaviour I
want of (a) accept cookies from specific named domains but (b) ignore
cookies from all other domains.

I'm now experimenting with w3m.  I'm only just beginning to customise it,
so I shan't make any comment yet, except this.  I used to wish that Lynx
would handle tables properly, but now that I've seen the result I'm not
so sure.  Slashdot looks downright *weird* in that multiple column layout.
I'll shut up now (no doubt to the sound of ten thousand geeks muttering
"how could he not know all this time").

-zefram, web curmudgeon

Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)

[Peter Stephenson]

"Bart Schaefer" wrote:
> SourceForge also causes problems for Internet Explorer

Yesssss!

I've added zefram as a developer.  Note that developers (there's now
adamspiers, pws, barts, wischnow, zefram) can log in at
zsh.sourceforge.net with the same password as on the web.  Good news!

[pws@orbital pws]$ which zsh
/bin/zsh
[pws@orbital pws]$ chsh
Changing shell for pws.
Password: 
New shell [/bin/bash]: /bin/zsh
Shell changed.

-- 
Peter Stephenson <pws@pwstephenson.fsnet.co.uk>
Work: pws@CambridgeSiliconRadio.com
Web: http://www.pwstephenson.fsnet.co.uk

OFFTOPIC--cookies [was Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)]

[Clint Adams]

> the cookie_accept_domains setting.  Thus I can't get the behaviour I
> want of (a) accept cookies from specific named domains but (b) ignore
> cookies from all other domains.

You might want to look into using something like junkbuster for your
selective cookie management.