* Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)
@ 2000-03-29 7:01 Sven Wischnowsky
2000-03-29 9:30 ` Oliver Kiddle
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Sven Wischnowsky @ 2000-03-29 7:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: zsh-workers
Bart Schaefer wrote:
> On Mar 29, 12:11am, Adam Spiers wrote:
> } Subject: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)
> }
> } Bart and Sven will presumably want to register accounts soon
>
> I've got one; it's "barts" because "schaefer" was taken.
I've got one, too; it's "wischnow" because "puck" was taken ;-)
> } Do we want to keep the mailing lists and web pages hosted at
> } sunsite.auc.dk?
>
> For now, I think so. Nothing's seriously broken and I fear that trying
> to move it would cause something to become so (not by any fault of
> sourceforge's, but nevertheless).
But in the long run?
I mostly mean the web pages, though, because they could certainly be
made nicer (although that wouldn't require moving them to sourceforge,
of course); didn't someone lately offer to...
Bye
Sven
--
Sven Wischnowsky wischnow@informatik.hu-berlin.de
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* Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)
2000-03-29 7:01 SourceForge Project Approved (fwd) Sven Wischnowsky
@ 2000-03-29 9:30 ` Oliver Kiddle
2000-03-29 14:35 ` Ollivier Robert
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Oliver Kiddle @ 2000-03-29 9:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: zsh-workers; +Cc: Karsten Thygesen
Sven Wischnowsky wrote:
>
> I mostly mean the web pages, though, because they could certainly be
> made nicer (although that wouldn't require moving them to sourceforge,
> of course); didn't someone lately offer to...
Yes, I recently offered to help with the web pages though what I had in
mind was primarily ensuring that it remained up-to-date and leaving the
current lynx friendly layout mostly as it is - I wasn't going to tart it
up with lots or pretty graphics if that's what you mean by 'made nicer'.
Karsten created me an account but I can't get it to work. I can login to
it if I use a username of 'opk' (instead of the 'pbk' which was the
username Karsten quoted in his e-mail) but I can't do a 'co zsh' command
- I get:
Fatal error, aborting.
opk@u.genie.co.uk: no such user
Does anyone who understands cvs have any idea as to what the cause of
this is. My guess is that either:
1. my company 's firewall is getting in the way. Which ports does CVS
use?
2. my CVS installation is wrong. It was done direct from a debian .deb
package by a friend who has a Linux box on the company's main network.
The RS/6000s I generally use for work are on a secure network so I can't
try from them.
3. Karsten made a mistake while creating the account. Fairly possible
seeing as he muddled my initials around and may have been in a rush - he
said he was very busy.
Karsten: if you get a chance, can you check the account setup.
I'm going to get a modem soon so will have internet access at home again
so hopefully that will solve a few problems. I can't actually access
sourceforge from the company network due to the firewall though I do
have an account (opk).
Oliver Kiddle
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* Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)
2000-03-29 9:30 ` Oliver Kiddle
@ 2000-03-29 14:35 ` Ollivier Robert
2000-03-30 2:38 ` Chmouel Boudjnah
2000-04-03 16:17 ` Karsten Thygesen
2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ollivier Robert @ 2000-03-29 14:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: zsh-workers
According to Oliver Kiddle:
> 1. my company 's firewall is getting in the way. Which ports does CVS
> use?
2401 for pserver operations.
--
Ollivier ROBERT -=- Eurocontrol EEC/TEC -=- roberto@eurocontrol.fr
The Postman hits! The Postman hits! You have new mail.
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* Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)
2000-03-29 9:30 ` Oliver Kiddle
2000-03-29 14:35 ` Ollivier Robert
@ 2000-03-30 2:38 ` Chmouel Boudjnah
2000-03-30 2:51 ` Kevin Sullivan
2000-04-03 16:17 ` Karsten Thygesen
2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Chmouel Boudjnah @ 2000-03-30 2:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Oliver Kiddle; +Cc: zsh-workers, Karsten Thygesen
Oliver Kiddle <opk@u.genie.co.uk> writes:
> Sven Wischnowsky wrote:
> >
> > I mostly mean the web pages, though, because they could certainly be
> > made nicer (although that wouldn't require moving them to sourceforge,
> > of course); didn't someone lately offer to...
>
> Yes, I recently offered to help with the web pages though what I had in
> mind was primarily ensuring that it remained up-to-date and leaving the
> current lynx friendly layout mostly as it is - I wasn't going to tart it
> up with lots or pretty graphics if that's what you mean by 'made nicer'.
>
> Karsten created me an account but I can't get it to work. I can login to
> it if I use a username of 'opk' (instead of the 'pbk' which was the
> username Karsten quoted in his e-mail) but I can't do a 'co zsh' command
> - I get:
> Fatal error, aborting.
> opk@u.genie.co.uk: no such user
>
> Does anyone who understands cvs have any idea as to what the cause of
> this is. My guess is that either:
> 1. my company 's firewall is getting in the way. Which ports does CVS
> use?
> 2. my CVS installation is wrong. It was done direct from a debian .deb
> package by a friend who has a Linux box on the company's main network.
> The RS/6000s I generally use for work are on a secure network so I can't
> try from them.
> 3. Karsten made a mistake while creating the account. Fairly possible
> seeing as he muddled my initials around and may have been in a rush - he
> said he was very busy.
>
> Karsten: if you get a chance, can you check the account setup.
>
> I'm going to get a modem soon so will have internet access at home again
> so hopefully that will solve a few problems. I can't actually access
> sourceforge from the company network due to the firewall though I do
> have an account (opk).
>
> Oliver Kiddle
>
--
MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Pasadena, CA USA --Chmouel
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* Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)
2000-03-30 2:38 ` Chmouel Boudjnah
@ 2000-03-30 2:51 ` Kevin Sullivan
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Sullivan @ 2000-03-30 2:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: chmouel; +Cc: opk, zsh-workers, karthy
Chmouel Boudjnah writes:
> Oliver Kiddle <opk@u.genie.co.uk> writes:
>
> > Sven Wischnowsky wrote:
> > >
> > > I mostly mean the web pages, though, because they could certainly be
> > > made nicer (although that wouldn't require moving them to sourceforge,
> > > of course); didn't someone lately offer to...
> >
> > Yes, I recently offered to help with the web pages though what I had in
> > mind was primarily ensuring that it remained up-to-date and leaving the
> > current lynx friendly layout mostly as it is - I wasn't going to tart it
> > up with lots or pretty graphics if that's what you mean by 'made nicer'.
> >
> > Karsten created me an account but I can't get it to work. I can login to
> > it if I use a username of 'opk' (instead of the 'pbk' which was the
> > username Karsten quoted in his e-mail) but I can't do a 'co zsh' command
> > - I get:
> > Fatal error, aborting.
> > opk@u.genie.co.uk: no such user
> >
> > Does anyone who understands cvs have any idea as to what the cause of
> > this is. My guess is that either:
> > 1. my company 's firewall is getting in the way. Which ports does CVS
> > use?
> > 2. my CVS installation is wrong. It was done direct from a debian .deb
> > package by a friend who has a Linux box on the company's main network.
> > The RS/6000s I generally use for work are on a secure network so I can't
> > try from them.
> > 3. Karsten made a mistake while creating the account. Fairly possible
> > seeing as he muddled my initials around and may have been in a rush - he
> > said he was very busy.
> >
> > Karsten: if you get a chance, can you check the account setup.
> >
> > I'm going to get a modem soon so will have internet access at home again
> > so hopefully that will solve a few problems. I can't actually access
> > sourceforge from the company network due to the firewall though I do
> > have an account (opk).
When I was doing this I used these commands to access the CVS
archive..
cvs -d :pserver:kevins@sunsite.auc.dk:/pack/anoncvs login
cvs -d :pserver:kevins@sunsite.auc.dk:/pack/anoncvs checkout zsh
Now you should replace kevins@sunsite.auc.dk with opk@sunsite.auc.dk
This worked fine for me just now...
Kevin Sullivan
kevins@pac-software.com
PAC Software Engineering, Inc.
Phone: (978) 363-5294
Cell Phone: (508) 523-4295
Fax: (617) 747-3597
Finger kevins@kevins.ne.mediaone.net for my PGP public key.
Use cell phone during normal business hours.
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* Re: SourceForge Project Approved (fwd)
2000-03-29 9:30 ` Oliver Kiddle
2000-03-29 14:35 ` Ollivier Robert
2000-03-30 2:38 ` Chmouel Boudjnah
@ 2000-04-03 16:17 ` Karsten Thygesen
2000-04-03 18:54 ` web pages Oliver Kiddle
2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Karsten Thygesen @ 2000-04-03 16:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Oliver Kiddle; +Cc: zsh-workers
>>>>> "Oliver" == Oliver Kiddle <opk@u.genie.co.uk> writes:
Oliver> Karsten created me an account but I can't get it to work. I
Oliver> can login to it if I use a username of 'opk' (instead of the
Oliver> 'pbk' which was the username Karsten quoted in his e-mail) but
Oliver> I can't do a 'co zsh' command
Oliver> - I get:
Oliver> Fatal error, aborting. opk@u.genie.co.uk: no such user
I made a quote error - your login is opk as requested - sorry!
Oliver> Does anyone who understands cvs have any idea as to what the
Oliver> cause of this is. My guess is that either:
Oliver> 1. my company 's firewall is getting in the way. Which ports
Oliver> does CVS
Oliver> use?
Oliver> 2. my CVS installation is wrong. It was done direct from a
Oliver> debian .deb
Oliver> package by a friend who has a Linux box on the company's main
Oliver> network. The RS/6000s I generally use for work are on a
Oliver> secure network so I can't try from them.
Oliver> 3. Karsten made a mistake while creating the account. Fairly
Oliver> possible
Oliver> seeing as he muddled my initials around and may have been in a
Oliver> rush - he said he was very busy.
Well - it was just a quote error.
Oliver> Karsten: if you get a chance, can you check the account setup.
Try:
cvs -d :pserver:opk@sunsite.auc.dk:/pack/anoncvs login
<enter your password>
cvs -d :pserver:opk@sunsite.auc.dk:/pack/anoncvs co zsh
It should work just fine. Do not use yuor email address as login name.
Karsten
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* web pages
2000-04-03 16:17 ` Karsten Thygesen
@ 2000-04-03 18:54 ` Oliver Kiddle
2000-04-03 19:08 ` Adam Spiers
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Oliver Kiddle @ 2000-04-03 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Karsten Thygesen; +Cc: zsh-workers
Right I'm now in business with the main web pages. Thanks Karsten - it
now works after that second fix.
I've added a new news item about the SourceForge move. Now that I look
at it again, I'm not sure that I worded it as well as I might have done
but never mind. Peter: is your e-mail address on the about page
out-of-date; zsh@sunsite.auc.dk is also forwarding to ifh - atleast
according to the list Karsten sent me when he first added me)? I think
we should add a page describing how to get at the CVS stuff. I was going
to base it on the thing Adam wrote around the end of last year(?)
updated for SourceForge but if anyone thinks they can do a good job of
it (until recently I knew nothing about cvs) then please do. I'm not
sure where the CVS would fit under the main headings.
The Contributions page could probably have a few additions. I'll trawl
through the mailing list archives when I get time for any suitable
scripts. Does anyone object to me adding scripts that they posted under
their name on the page?
When I commited the couple of changes to CVS, I was prompted for some
text. I gave it a one-line description of the change I made is this what
I was supposed to do?
Does anyone know if we can use the sourceforge web area as a mirror of
the main pages with them automatically updated using cron or whatever?
We could probably do with a few examples of ZLE widgets. Those in the
main archive are all fairly complicated and aren't the best place to
start someone off. I have a few simple widgets - for example:
copy-last-word() {
setopt localoptions noksharrays
local words
words=( "${=LBUFFER}" )
if [[ $LASTWIDGET = copy-last-word ]] && (( clwcount > -$#words ));
then
(( clwcount-- ))
else
(( clwcount=-2 ))
fi
LBUFFER="${LBUFFER%$words[-1]}$words[clwcount]"
}
This is like copy-prev-word but doesn't take the current unfinished word
and cycles through the previous words.
Where should this sort of thing be - in the distribution, on the web
page or in /dev/null? Does anyone else have any widgets they would like
to share?
I also have a number of AIX and IRIX specific completions as well as
some which are specific to particular commercial applications (e.g.
Rational Apex). Where should this sort of thing go?
I think we ought to have some way of sharing such things but there
should probably be a limit as to what goes into the main zsh
distribution. Can we have separate CVS distributions on SourceForge.
Maybe we should have a separately maintained package for miscellanous
completions. Despite saying that I'm not very convinced myself that it
would be a good idea. I always hate it when I come to download a program
and find that I need 15 separate libraries and macro packages.
Don't be suprised if I seem to be a bit inactive on the web pages over
the coming few weeks but I over the longer term, I hope that won't be
the case - I'm away for the coming weekends and have a holiday in the US
coming up. My one account on a Linux box on the internet may disappear
soon (and with it the host I ran cvs from) though I will have access
from home soon. Am I likely to cause problems (messing up file
permissions etc) by running cvs from a win32 machine as a temporary
measure?
If anyone has any suggestions related to the web pages then please speak
up.
Oliver Kiddle
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* Re: web pages
2000-04-03 18:54 ` web pages Oliver Kiddle
@ 2000-04-03 19:08 ` Adam Spiers
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Adam Spiers @ 2000-04-03 19:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: zsh-workers
Oliver Kiddle (opk@u.genie.co.uk) wrote:
> I've added a new news item about the SourceForge move.
You might want to update the date stamp to the right of the `News'
link on the main page too.
> I think we should add a page describing how to get at the CVS
> stuff. I was going to base it on the thing Adam wrote around the end
> of last year(?) updated for SourceForge but if anyone thinks they
> can do a good job of it (until recently I knew nothing about cvs)
> then please do.
There's no need to write this; just link to
http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=4068
like I've done from my page (the accuracy of which, incidentally, I'm
maintaining reasonably regularly).
> The Contributions page could probably have a few additions. I'll trawl
> through the mailing list archives when I get time for any suitable
> scripts. Does anyone object to me adding scripts that they posted under
> their name on the page?
No objection from me; you could include my .zshrc if you want, which
is always at:
http://www.new.ox.ac.uk/~adam/computing/zsh/files/.zshrc
You could also include a link to my zsh page
http://www.new.ox.ac.uk/~adam/computing/zsh/
under `Useful links', although I'm beginning to sound like an
egocentric maniac, so never let it be said I forced you into it ;-)
> When I commited the couple of changes to CVS, I was prompted for some
> text. I gave it a one-line description of the change I made is this what
> I was supposed to do?
Yes. It doesn't have to be one line, but brief is good.
> Does anyone know if we can use the sourceforge web area as a mirror of
> the main pages with them automatically updated using cron or whatever?
Yes, we could. Mirroring via rsync would be best, if it's possible.
> I also have a number of AIX and IRIX specific completions as well as
> some which are specific to particular commercial applications (e.g.
> Rational Apex). Where should this sort of thing go?
Personally I really like the `out-of-the-box-ness' of the new
completion system, and would like to see that continue as much as
possible. We already have a few platform-specific completions, and
adding more are hardly doing any harm.
> I always hate it when I come to download a program and find that I
> need 15 separate libraries and macro packages.
Exactly.
> If anyone has any suggestions related to the web pages then please speak
> up.
I'm not too keen on the `Distribution' section. When I was first
looking for the downloads bit, my eye completely missed this. Could
we change it to `Downloads', with sub-headings as `Mirrors' and
`Mirror contents' respectively?
Adam
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* Re: web pages
@ 2000-04-04 9:16 Sven Wischnowsky
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Sven Wischnowsky @ 2000-04-04 9:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: zsh-workers
Adam Spiers wrote:
> Oliver Kiddle (opk@u.genie.co.uk) wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > I also have a number of AIX and IRIX specific completions as well as
> > some which are specific to particular commercial applications (e.g.
> > Rational Apex). Where should this sort of thing go?
>
> Personally I really like the `out-of-the-box-ness' of the new
> completion system, and would like to see that continue as much as
> possible. We already have a few platform-specific completions, and
> adding more are hardly doing any harm.
Agreed. And people who have platform-dependent completion functions
they want to add might want to start thinking about the final
directory layout... ;-)
Bye
Sven
--
Sven Wischnowsky wischnow@informatik.hu-berlin.de
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