From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28098 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2005 15:54:44 -0000 Received: from news.dotsrc.org (HELO a.mx.sunsite.dk) (130.225.247.88) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 11 Jul 2005 15:54:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 62497 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2005 15:54:37 -0000 Received: from sunsite.dk (130.225.247.90) by a.mx.sunsite.dk with SMTP; 11 Jul 2005 15:54:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 24502 invoked by alias); 11 Jul 2005 15:54:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-workers-help@sunsite.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 21437 Received: (qmail 24470 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2005 15:54:32 -0000 Received: from news.dotsrc.org (HELO a.mx.sunsite.dk) (130.225.247.88) by sunsite.dk with SMTP; 11 Jul 2005 15:54:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 62177 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2005 15:54:32 -0000 Received: from iron.cat.pdx.edu (131.252.208.92) by a.mx.sunsite.dk with SMTP; 11 Jul 2005 15:54:27 -0000 Received: from ruby.cat.pdx.edu (ruby.cat.pdx.edu [131.252.208.85]) by iron.cat.pdx.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j6BFsD3p029998 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ruby.cat.pdx.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ruby.cat.pdx.edu (8.13.1/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j6BFsC1q009818 for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:54:12 -0700 Received: (from tspencer@localhost) by ruby.cat.pdx.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j6BFsCRZ009817 for zsh-workers@sunsite.dk; Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:54:12 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 08:54:12 -0700 From: Travis Spencer To: zsh-workers@sunsite.dk Subject: Re: Good, easy to use, upstream defaults for zsh (i.e. improving usability) Message-ID: <20050711155412.GJ12208@ruby.cat.pdx.edu> Reply-To: zsh-workers@sunsite.dk Mail-Followup-To: zsh-workers@sunsite.dk References: <3060c2390507101559320eb09c@mail.gmail.com> <20050711154439.GA5307@puritan.pnetwork> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050711154439.GA5307@puritan.pnetwork> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 on a.mx.sunsite.dk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=6.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Hits: -2.4 On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 05:44:39PM +0200, Nikolai Weibull wrote: > I hear what you're trying to do, but a Z-shell isn't a fish (wow, > that was a horrible pun), I am with Keir on this one. A large minority of the sys admins at my school use zsh. In an effort to make converting easier they provide a pretty usable default environment. When I first logged in, I was like, "What they heck! This thing is totally broken. Why is this doing such and such? Where is such and such?" Once I figured out what they where doing, I just added *one* new option to my .zshenv: setopt NO_GLOBAL_RCS Done deal. Now new zsh-converts get a usable environment that they can choose to customize or simply use as is, and I'm happy because none of their stuff effects me. -- Regards, Travis Spencer