From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1504 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 21:10:28 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-08-08) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.3 Received: from news.dotsrc.org (HELO a.mx.sunsite.dk) (130.225.247.88) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 21:10:28 -0000 Received-SPF: none (ns1.primenet.com.au: domain at sunsite.dk does not designate permitted sender hosts) Received: (qmail 77372 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 21:10:18 -0000 Received: from sunsite.dk (130.225.247.90) by a.mx.sunsite.dk with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 21:10:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 8441 invoked by alias); 13 Dec 2007 21:10:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-workers-help@sunsite.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 24236 Received: (qmail 8422 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2007 21:10:14 -0000 Received: from bifrost.dotsrc.org (130.225.254.106) by sunsite.dk with SMTP; 13 Dec 2007 21:10:14 -0000 Received: from virusfilter.dotsrc.org (bifrost [127.0.0.1]) by spamfilter.dotsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B1CA8058F55 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:07:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.49]) by bifrost.dotsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:07:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20071213211050.HPHT26125.mtaout03-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:10:50 +0000 Received: from pws-pc ([82.6.96.116]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with SMTP id <20071213211031.QQOR17393.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@pws-pc> for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:10:31 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:08:12 +0000 From: Peter Stephenson To: Zsh Hackers' List Subject: Re: 4.3.4-dev-4 and 4.2.6-dev-2 available Message-Id: <20071213210812.c3979e8c.p.w.stephenson@ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <200712111844.41099.ismail@pardus.org.tr> References: <22582.1197372038@csr.com> <200712111541.lBBFfEhn032580@news01.csr.com> <071211083912.ZM16857@torch.brasslantern.com> <200712111844.41099.ismail@pardus.org.tr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.7 (GTK+ 2.12.1; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:44:41 +0200 Ismail Dönmez wrote: > Tuesday 11 December 2007 18:39:12 tarihinde şunları yazmıştınız: (That can't be the Turkish for "Bart said", can it? Just wondered...) > > It's possible to mount an ext3 filesystem in a mode that does not do > > an access time updates. This is supposed to make the filesystem > > respond much more quickly. > > Mounted with noatime indeed! Thats the problem then. For now, we'd better indicate the problem. Index: Test/C02cond.ztst =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/zsh/zsh/Test/C02cond.ztst,v retrieving revision 1.18 diff -u -r1.18 C02cond.ztst --- Test/C02cond.ztst 11 Dec 2007 15:24:47 -0000 1.18 +++ Test/C02cond.ztst 13 Dec 2007 21:09:06 -0000 @@ -142,7 +142,9 @@ F:This test can fail on NFS-mounted filesystems as the access and F:modification times are not updated separately. The test will fail F:on HFS+ (Apple Mac OS X default) filesystems because access times -F:are not recorded. This does not indicate a problem in the shell. +F:are not recorded. Also, Linux ext3 filesystems may be mounted +F:with the noatime option which does not update access times. +F:Failures in these cases do not indicate a problem in the shell. [[ newnewnew -nt zerolength && ! (unmodified -nt zerolength) ]] 0:-nt cond -- Peter Stephenson Web page now at http://homepage.ntlworld.com/p.w.stephenson/