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From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org>
To: Zsh hackers list <zsh-workers@sunsite.dk>
Cc: Peter Stephenson <p.w.stephenson@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: arithmetic operator precedence
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:33:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080616143328.GY10734@prunille.vinc17.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080616135934.GD5091@sc.homeunix.net>

On 2008-06-16 14:59:34 +0100, Stephane Chazelas wrote:
> It's at least consistent with other shells and bc at the moment:
> 
> ~$ bash -c 'echo $((-2**2))'
> 4
> ~$ zsh -c 'echo $((-2**2))'
> 4
> ~$ ksh93 -c 'echo $((-2**2))'
> 4
> ~$ echo '-2 ^ 2' | bc
> 4

That are almost the only ones.

> bc is one place where POSIX specifies the precedence of
> unary-minus vs power:
> http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/bc.html
> minus has higher precedence than ^ which I have to say is more
> intuitive to me.

Most users find the other way more intuitive, as with conventional
math writing

    2
  -2  = -4

(and that's also the reason why ** is right-associative, whereas
most operations are left-associative).

> Having said that:
> 
> ~$ perl -le 'print -2 ** 2'
> -4
> ~$ python -c 'print -2 ** 2'
> -4
> ~$ ruby -e 'print -2 ** 2'
> -4%
> ~$ gawk 'BEGIN {print -2 ** 2}'
> -4

and:

vin:~> calc -- '-2 ^ 2'
        -4
vin:~> qalc '-2 ^ 2'
-(2^2) = -4
vin:~> wcalc '-2 ^ 2'
 = -4
vin:~> echo '-2 ^ 2' | gp -q
-4
vin:~> echo '-2 ^ 2;' | maple -q
                                      -4
vin:~> echo '-2 ^ 2; quit' | mupad -S
>> -2 ^ 2; quit

                                    -4

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-16 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-12  9:57 Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-12 13:12 ` Mikael Magnusson
2008-06-12 13:40 ` Peter Stephenson
2008-06-12 14:47   ` Bart Schaefer
2008-06-12 15:01     ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-16  8:17       ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-16  8:07 ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-16 13:42   ` Peter Stephenson
2008-06-16 13:59     ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-16 14:33       ` Vincent Lefevre [this message]
2008-06-17  9:19     ` Richard Hartmann
2008-06-17  9:45       ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 10:24         ` Richard Hartmann
2008-06-17 10:24           ` Richard Hartmann
2008-06-17 10:38           ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 10:43             ` Peter Stephenson
2008-06-17 11:28               ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 11:46                 ` Peter Stephenson
2008-06-17 12:05                   ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-19  9:37                   ` Jun T.
2008-06-19  9:54                     ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-19 16:00                       ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-19 16:20                         ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-19 17:14                           ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-19  9:58                     ` Peter Stephenson
2008-06-19 12:29                       ` Richard Hartmann
2008-06-19 16:04                         ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-19 16:10                           ` Mikael Magnusson
2008-06-19 16:27                             ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-19 17:25                               ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-19 17:20                             ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 10:45             ` Richard Hartmann
2008-06-17 11:38             ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 11:19         ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 11:57           ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 12:35             ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 12:46               ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 13:02                 ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 13:20                   ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 14:33                     ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 14:53                       ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 15:49                         ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 14:35                     ` Stephane Chazelas
2008-06-17 15:05                       ` Vincent Lefevre
2008-06-17 10:54       ` Vincent Lefevre

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