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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:23:46 -0700
From: Phil Pennock <zsh-workers+phil.pennock@spodhuis.org>
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Subject: Re: list not accepting posts?
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On 2009-07-28 at 12:10 -0400, Greg Klanderman wrote:
> I sent a message yesterday and got a temporary failure:
> 
> | Final-recipient: rfc822; zsh-workers@sunsite.dk
> | Action: delayed
> | Status: 4.1.1
> | Diagnostic-Code: smtp;  451 4.3.5 Server configuration problem
> | Last-attempt-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:00:35 +0000
> 
> and the message has not yet been sent to the list, so this is just a
> test message..

The list management software (qconfirm) also uses SMTP Envelope Sender
to test for membership and does not understand BATV envelopes.  Other
mailing-list managers use Sender:/From:/etc and so are unaffected.

A result is that I'm having to individually confirm every message I
send.  So I send less and start feeling frustrated any time I want to
post to zsh-workers.  I'll have to confirm this post before anyone else
sees it.

On May 1st (2009) I mailed staff@dotsrc.org to ask about this;
dotsrc.org appears to be the new name for sunsite.dk, etc.  I've had no
response.

Does anyone have any contacts with sunsite.dk that can get this fixed?

Thanks,
-Phil