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From: Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
To: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>
Cc: Zsh List Hackers' <zsh-workers@zsh.org>
Subject: Re: Unicode, Korean, normalization form, Mac OS X and tab completion
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 02:25:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140601022527.GD1820@tarsus.local2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <140531142926.ZM556@torch.brasslantern.com>

Bart Schaefer wrote on Sat, May 31, 2014 at 14:29:26 -0700:
> On May 31,  8:16pm, Peter Stephenson wrote:
> }
> } I'm currently wondering if there is scope for normalising keyboard input
> } really early --- before we feed it back to the shell --- and turning it
> } back into the usual keyboard form right at the end
> 
> Per thread with Chet, I think normalizing the filesystem is the easier
> way to go.  Keyboard input is already as close to normalized as it needs
> to be, I think, and with only a couple of exceptions all the names we
> get from the filesystem come through zreaddir().

What about, say, people doing 'ls' and copy-pasting a filename from the
output into a command line?  Wouldn't that result in NFD keyboard
input?

FWIW, while OS X always returns NFD filenames, one could also imagine an
OS that is normalization-aware (forbids creating a file if its
normalized name is the same as the normalized name of an existing file)
but octet-sequence-preserving, and on such an OS both the readdir()
output and the user input would need to be normalized.

Also, other unixes allow you to have both the NFC-form and NFD-form in
the same directory, e.g., 'touch fooá fooá' works just fine on linux
ext4 (the first filename is composed, the second decomposed); in such
cases normalization magic should not be done.

Fun! :-)

Daniel


  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-01  2:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-31  3:56 Kwon Yeolhyun
2014-05-31 15:21 ` Chet Ramey
2014-05-31 18:47   ` Bart Schaefer
2014-05-31 19:16 ` Peter Stephenson
2014-05-31 21:29   ` Bart Schaefer
2014-06-01  2:25     ` Daniel Shahaf [this message]
2014-06-01  5:30       ` Kwon Yeolhyun
2014-06-01 16:53         ` Daniel Shahaf
2014-06-01  7:56       ` Bart Schaefer
2014-06-01 16:46         ` Daniel Shahaf
2014-06-01 17:00         ` Jun T.
2014-06-01 19:13           ` Bart Schaefer
2014-06-02 17:01             ` Jun T.
2014-06-02 17:14               ` Bart Schaefer
2014-06-01 19:53           ` Bart Schaefer
2014-06-02 11:58             ` Kwon Yeolhyun
2014-06-02 14:23               ` Kwon Yeolhyun
2014-06-02 15:14                 ` Bart Schaefer
2014-06-02 15:27                   ` Peter Stephenson
2014-06-02 15:48                     ` Kwon Yeolhyun
2014-06-02 15:27                   ` Kwon Yeolhyun
2014-06-02 15:49                     ` Bart Schaefer
2014-06-02 15:58                       ` Kwon Yeolhyun
2014-06-02 14:31               ` Bart Schaefer
2014-06-02 17:15             ` Jun T.
2014-06-02 17:27               ` Bart Schaefer
2014-06-05 14:34                 ` Jun T.
2014-06-05 15:00                   ` Bart Schaefer
2014-06-02  5:17           ` Kwon Yeolhyun
2014-06-02  7:39             ` Jun T.
2014-06-02  8:42               ` Kwon Yeolhyun

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