From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net>
To: "zsh-workers@zsh.org" <zsh-workers@zsh.org>
Subject: Re: Math expression evaluation error?
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 17:00:31 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150113160031.GA12079@ypig.lip.ens-lyon.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1518701421079502@web12g.yandex.ru>
On 2015-01-12 19:18:22 +0300, ZyX wrote:
> 12.01.2015, 12:18, "Vincent Lefevre" <vincent@vinc17.net>:
> > It's only a notation problem. Unfortunately / was chosen (historically,
> > not by zsh) as the symbol for integer division. The shell expression
> > 1/2 + 1/2 just means:
> >
> > integer_div(1,2) + integer_div(1,2)
> >
> > where integer_div is the integer division function, which gives 0.
> > This is perfectly correct math.
>
> It is not integer division.
In POSIX, it is always an integer division.
> 1.0/2 and 1/2.0 will give the same result: 0.5.
because 1.0 and 2.0 don't have an integer type. Therefore the result is
unspecified by POSIX, and zsh chooses to do a floating-point division.
> If you want to see language with operator for integer division check
> out Python-3: it has / for always-floating-point-unless-overridden
> and // for always-integral-unless-overridden
For Python, but not for zsh, unfortunately. But this choice comes
from POSIX historical behavior (and perhaps earlier).
> I would rather call it “type-specific division”.
In zsh. In POSIX, it is *always* an integer division. There is no
floating-point there.
An alternative choice zsh could have done is to return an error
if the / operator is used in a floating-point context, and use a
different operator for the floating-point division. However the
use of / for integer division could still be surprising.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-13 16:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-09 19:46 jdh
2015-01-09 20:15 ` Peter Stephenson
2015-01-09 21:40 ` jdh
2015-01-09 22:19 ` Ray Andrews
2015-01-09 23:06 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2015-01-09 23:52 ` Ray Andrews
2015-01-10 0:25 ` Bart Schaefer
2015-01-10 7:27 ` Ray Andrews
2015-01-10 16:53 ` Bart Schaefer
2015-01-10 18:48 ` Ray Andrews
2015-01-10 19:14 ` Bart Schaefer
2015-01-10 22:21 ` Ray Andrews
2015-01-11 1:51 ` Bart Schaefer
2015-01-11 5:10 ` Ray Andrews
2015-01-12 9:17 ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-01-12 16:18 ` ZyX
2015-01-13 16:00 ` Vincent Lefevre [this message]
2015-01-13 23:03 ` ZyX
2015-01-14 14:47 ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-01-14 21:37 ` ZyX
2015-01-15 13:34 ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-01-15 13:41 ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-01-15 18:32 ` ZyX
2015-01-15 21:57 ` Bart Schaefer
2015-01-09 22:40 ` Peter Stephenson
2015-01-12 10:55 ` Peter Stephenson
2015-01-14 15:02 ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-01-14 15:38 ` Peter Stephenson
2015-01-15 14:58 ` Peter Stephenson
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