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From: Stephane Chazelas <stephane.chazelas@gmail.com>
To: Peter Stephenson <p.stephenson@samsung.com>, zsh-workers@zsh.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Use == in expressions instead of the deprecated =
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2016 16:06:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160908150632.GA15106@chaz.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160908143128.GA14933@chaz.gmail.com>

2016-09-08 15:31:28 +0100, Stephane Chazelas:
[...]
> ksh93 also makes "==" obsolete in [[...]]. "==" is still not
> POSIX (and likely not going to be soon as requests to add it
> have been rejected (IIRC)) for the "test"/"[" utility (or expr).
[...]

Appart from bash 2.02, I don't know of a shell implementation
that treats [[ = ]] differently from [[ == ]] (or [ = ] vs [ ==
] for those "[" implementations that support ==) however note
that yash has a 3rd operator: [ === ] that is short for [ '<=' ]
&& [ '>=' ] or [ ! '<' ] && [ ! '>' ].

As in yash like in bash or ksh93 (but not zsh), < and > for
string comparison use strcoll() (like sort/expr or awk's </> for
strings) while == uses strcmp. And in some locales, there are
strings that sort the same even though they are different.

yash's === is a test to check that two strings sort the same,
like the "=" operator of expr (or the == operator of some awk
implementations as currently required by POSIX (though that's
going to change)).

For instance in a en_GB.UTF-8 locale on a GNU system, \u2461
sorts the same as \u2462 (in that case, a bug).

expr $'\u2461' = $'\u2462'
and
yash -c '[ \u2461 === \u2462 ]'

return true while

[[ \u2461 < \u2462 ]] and [[ \u2461 > \u2462 ]]
both return false in bash and ksh93.

zsh's behaviour is more consistent here but means that for
instance

[[ Stéphane < Stuff ]]

returns false (while bash and ksh93 return true) even though
I'd exect é to sort before u.

See also
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/56655/what-is-the-difference-between-a-z-and-a-z/56674#56674

-- 
Stephane


  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-11  2:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-05 21:27 Teubel György
2016-09-08  8:35 ` Peter Stephenson
2016-09-08 11:16   ` Peter Stephenson
2016-09-08 14:31     ` Stephane Chazelas
2016-09-08 15:06       ` Stephane Chazelas [this message]
2016-09-08 15:14       ` Peter Stephenson
2016-09-08 16:39         ` Mikael Magnusson
2016-09-08 18:47           ` Stephane Chazelas
2016-09-09 12:03         ` Vincent Lefevre
     [not found]           ` <CGME20160912143133eucas1p11a4e6916dd70b3ceaa163bf3bddfb007@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2016-09-12 14:31             ` Peter Stephenson
2016-09-09  8:52       ` Stephane Chazelas
2016-09-09  9:31         ` Peter Stephenson
2016-09-09 16:00           ` Stephane Chazelas
2016-09-14 22:01         ` PATCH: [[ -v varname ]] Oliver Kiddle
2016-09-15 10:55           ` Vincent Lefevre
2016-09-16  0:36             ` Bart Schaefer
2016-09-15 11:08           ` Stephane Chazelas
2016-09-15 11:22             ` wrong "export -p" output for exported but not set variables (Was: PATCH: [[ -v varname ]]) Stephane Chazelas
2016-09-09 17:01       ` [PATCH] Use == in expressions instead of the deprecated = Christian Neukirchen
2016-09-09 18:54         ` Stephane Chazelas
2016-09-09 13:05     ` Peter Stephenson

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