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From: Stephane Chazelas <stephane.chazelas@gmail.com>
To: Peter Stephenson <p.stephenson@samsung.com>
Cc: Zsh Workers <zsh-workers@zsh.org>
Subject: Re: BUG: Shell builtin `which` prints non-existent commands to stdout
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 23:18:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180924221820.opyz3vnlo4wquy35@chaz.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180924125126eucas1p2e4ae5b63ce6320957ee99737f93181ae~XVwcoX7b91518615186eucas1p2T@eucas1p2.samsung.com>

2018-09-24 13:51:24 +0100, Peter Stephenson:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 14:29:33 +0200
[...]
> +  The original reason for this is that this behaviour is inherited
> +  from the C shell (csh), where `tt(which)' itself orignated.  So
> +  it has been in zsh a very long time, and it is now a feature.
> +  (It would be possible to change this in emulation modes; however.
> +  so far this possibility has been seen has more of an additional
> +  confusion than a help.)
[...]

csh had no "which" (tcsh has a which builtin), but there was a
"which" csh script added to 3BSD 1980 that was looking up
commands in $PATH and in the aliases defined through ~/.cshrc.
https://github.com/dspinellis/unix-history-repo/blob/BSD-3/usr/ucb/which

There's no easy way to write something to stderr in csh, so it's
not surprising that that script didn't.

In any case, the "command not found" can be seen as the normal
output of which, it is *the* information that it is returning
for that command.

zsh is not the only shell for which "type not-a-command" doesn't
output "command not found" on stderr. The Bourne shell, pdksh
and derivatives and ash-based shells do as well.

-- 
Stephane

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-09-24 22:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20180924080113epcas4p4f8f89aa03a2cebc5030fd45dca0f6e84@epcas4p4.samsung.com>
2018-09-24  8:00 ` Klaus Alexander Seistrup
2018-09-24 10:22   ` Peter Stephenson
2018-09-24 12:29     ` Klaus Alexander Seistrup
2018-09-24 12:51       ` Peter Stephenson
2018-09-24 13:22         ` [PATCH] zshbuiltins(1): Document 'which''s "not found is not an error" behaviour Daniel Shahaf
2018-09-24 22:18         ` Stephane Chazelas [this message]
2018-09-25  7:56           ` BUG: Shell builtin `which` prints non-existent commands to stdout Stephane Chazelas
2018-09-24 22:32         ` Stephane Chazelas
2018-09-25  9:10           ` Peter Stephenson
     [not found]   ` <20180924112218.7bac7f2c@camnpupstephen.cam.scsc.local>
2018-09-24 10:25     ` Peter Stephenson

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