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Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 21:35:30 +0000
From: Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
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Cc: Martijn Dekker <martijn@inlv.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sh/ksh init: don't initialise lowercase parameters
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Bart Schaefer wrote on Wed, 29 Jan 2020 12:36 -0600:
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 2:50 AM Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wr=
ote:
> >
> > Why de-deprecate the uppercase spelling?  Do ksh or POSIX sh define "HI=
STCHARS"
> > in uppercase?  The lowercase spelling does seem to be a csh/tcsh thing.
>=20
> I would agree with removing "Deprecated" from the doc for HISTCHARS.
> It's pretty clear at this point that we're not actually going to
> remove it, and there needs to be one form of the variable even in
> non-zsh modes for the feature to work, and we're not allowed to claim
> the lower-case one.

I see.  Yes, we can bless $HISTCHARS as the preferred spelling for
native mode and keep $histchars for csh compatibility=E2=80=A6but doesn't t=
his
imply that we should add a $SIGNALS variable (and possibly deprecate
$signals)?