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From: Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
To: zsh-workers@zsh.org
Subject: Re: glob qualifier '-' doesn't work correctly on dangling symlinks
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2020 12:02:41 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200414120241.3d8d7246@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200414061816.5qfbjyc6w3x34wcz@chazelas.org>

Stephane Chazelas wrote on Tue, 14 Apr 2020 07:18 +0100:
> 2020-04-13 23:41:49 +0200, Vincent Lefevre:
> [...]
> > > Which one(s) should find -L . -type l (or find . -xtype l)
> > > print?  
> > 
> > /etc/passwd/foo
> > /etc/pesswd/foo
> > symloop/foo
> > 
> > (and I would expect an error message for /root/foo, such as
> > "Permission denied", in addition to a non-zero exit status).  
> 
> So not that "unambiguous" after all. I could not find a single
> find implementation that agrees with your interpretation (not
> that it means that your intepretation is better or worse).
> 
> GNU find for instance only prints /etc/pesswd/foo and
> /etc/passwd/foo (but outputs an error for the latter) and
> returns non-zero for anything but /etc/pesswd/foo.
> 
> What should the outcome be for ESYS123 error code?
> 
> To me, the best approach is zsh's where *(-@) reports *all*
> broken links, broken meaning "whose target cannot be resolved".

Counter-argument: since an ENOMEM during symlink resolution causes
«(-@)» to presume the symlink is broken, the zsh language is
non-deterministic: what «intact-symlink(N-@)» will expand to will
depend on whether there is enough memory at runtime.

Shouldn't an ENOMEM during expansion of «intact-symlink(N-@)» result in
an error?  "In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess."

That is: I think there's a qualitative difference between ENOENT and ENOMEM.

I'm not sure what to do about unknown error codes.

Cheers,

Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-14 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-11 15:15 Vincent Lefevre
2020-04-11 17:34 ` Stephane Chazelas
2020-04-11 19:17   ` Vincent Lefevre
2020-04-11 20:37     ` Stephane Chazelas
2020-04-11 23:48       ` Vincent Lefevre
2020-04-12  1:21         ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-04-12  2:17           ` Vincent Lefevre
2020-04-12  7:09             ` Stephane Chazelas
2020-04-12 14:25               ` Vincent Lefevre
2020-04-12 17:34                 ` Stephane Chazelas
2020-04-12 23:38                   ` Vincent Lefevre
2020-04-13 14:22                     ` Stephane Chazelas
2020-04-13 15:00                       ` Bart Schaefer
2020-04-13 21:41                       ` Vincent Lefevre
2020-04-14  6:18                         ` Stephane Chazelas
2020-04-14 12:02                           ` Daniel Shahaf [this message]
2020-04-14 12:38                             ` Stephane Chazelas
2020-04-15  0:44                               ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-04-15  9:17                                 ` Vincent Lefevre
2020-04-14 17:59                           ` Vincent Lefevre
2020-04-12 12:48   ` Peter Stephenson
2020-04-12 14:31     ` Vincent Lefevre
2020-04-12 15:49       ` Peter Stephenson
2020-04-12 23:07         ` Vincent Lefevre

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