From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 29806 invoked from network); 3 May 2020 07:08:52 -0000 Received-SPF: pass (primenet.com.au: domain of zsh.org designates 203.24.36.2 as permitted sender) receiver=inbox.vuxu.org; client-ip=203.24.36.2 envelope-from= Received: from ns1.primenet.com.au (HELO primenet.com.au) (203.24.36.2) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 3 May 2020 07:08:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 26345 invoked by alias); 3 May 2020 07:08:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-workers-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Workers List List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: X-Seq: 45766 Received: (qmail 29256 invoked by uid 1010); 3 May 2020 07:08:42 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net by f.primenet.com.au (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.102.2/25793. spamassassin: 3.4.4. Clear:RC:0(217.70.183.198):SA:0(-2.6/5.0):. Processed in 2.144914 secs); 03 May 2020 07:08:42 -0000 X-Envelope-From: stephane@chazelas.org X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | Received-SPF: pass (ns1.primenet.com.au: SPF record at _nblcust.gandi.net designates 217.70.183.198 as permitted sender) X-Originating-IP: 94.3.152.49 Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 08:07:59 +0100 From: Stephane Chazelas To: Daniel Shahaf , Bart Schaefer , =?utf-8?B?VGltb3Row6ll?= Mazzucotelli , Peter Stephenson , "zsh-workers@zsh.org" Subject: Re: Feature request: ZSH_XTRACEFD variable Message-ID: <20200503070759.fj5hqrwtp2jqseev@chazelas.org> Mail-Followup-To: Daniel Shahaf , Bart Schaefer , =?utf-8?B?VGltb3Row6ll?= Mazzucotelli , Peter Stephenson , "zsh-workers@zsh.org" References: <1563722540.4311.24.camel@samsung.com> <1565710707.5633.11.camel@samsung.com> <309829031.4459446.1587391766024@mail2.virginmedia.com> <20200503000658.6fddb904@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> <20200503060113.utatw2zz43maff6e@chazelas.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200503060113.utatw2zz43maff6e@chazelas.org> 2020-05-03 07:01:13 +0100, Stephane Chazelas: [...] > SHELLOPTS=xtrace BASH_XTRACEFD=7 some-command [...] > I don't think we want to go there with zsh. [...] I meant: we probably don't want to have options set via the environment like with bash's SHELLOPTS and BASHOPTS, as that's quite dangerous and does cause quite a few problems with bash See for instance: $ (SHELLOPTS= exec -a sh bash -c 'bash -c "printenv SHELLOPTS"') braceexpand:hashall:interactive-comments:posix See how all those POSIX compliance options have been enabled for *all* bash invocations, just because bash was invoked as sh in an environment with a SHELLOPTS variable. But for ZSH_XTRACEFD, IMO it makes sense to import it as we do already import PS4. Note that BASHOPTS, SHELLOPTS and PS4 are in sudo's env var blacklist, but BASH_XTRACEFD is not (maybe it should) -- Stephane