From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net>
To: zsh-workers@zsh.org
Subject: Re: command -p should enable builtins not in path
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 15:17:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201002131753.GA154103@zira.vinc17.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <99d03601-babc-14c7-21b5-41a7a8c90eab@inlv.org>
On 2020-08-24 20:59:52 +0100, Martijn Dekker wrote:
> Op 24-08-20 om 19:30 schreef Vincent Lefevre:
> > However, "command cd" is not guaranteed to work in a POSIX shell,
> > e.g. if $PATH has changed.
>
> That's actually not true, 'cd' is intrinsically a built-in utility (it
> couldn't possibly function otherwise, as it must affect the current
> environment)
Well, AFAIK, some OS's provide a way for processes to affect the
environment of their parent. So an implementation could theoretically
choose to provide cd as an external utility.
> and it is also explicitly exempt from a $PATH search by XCU
> 2.9.1.4(d)[*] (not that most shells follow that absurd $PATH search
> rule for builtins anyway, but that's a different rant). Point being,
> POSIXly, 'command cd' is safe.
OK, I agree.
So, shouldn't this be changed to match the POSIX behavior for the
utility list from "Command Search and Execution"?
https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/V3_chap02.html#tag_18_09_01_01
I'm wondering whether any zsh user relies on an external program
for such utilities. Or, if there is any issue with such a change,
add another option, similar to POSIX_BUILTINS, but restricted to
this list.
FYI, I've just found that the "command -p" was added in Intel's scripts
because of a bug report from a user who defined a function named cd:
https://posts663.rssing.com/chan-20519098/all_p8.html
("command" would have been sufficient as you said, but there would
be the same problem in zsh).
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-02 13:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-20 11:28 Vincent Lefevre
2020-08-21 13:03 ` Peter Stephenson
2020-08-21 15:49 ` Martijn Dekker
2020-08-21 16:08 ` Peter Stephenson
2020-08-21 16:35 ` Martijn Dekker
2020-08-24 18:30 ` Vincent Lefevre
2020-08-24 19:59 ` Martijn Dekker
2020-10-02 13:17 ` Vincent Lefevre [this message]
2020-08-21 15:47 ` Martijn Dekker
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