From: Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
To: Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>
Cc: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>,
Zsh hackers list <zsh-workers@zsh.org>
Subject: Re: Bug with unset variables
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 15:44:39 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201127154439.GC26720@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMP44s1RLs-ASYFyvjvj7eGta5_WnsXSH_8jAXf-Zufk569E1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Felipe Contreras wrote on Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 02:46:40 -0600:
> Maybe there's a better way to describe this fact. Maybe Git's notion
> of logically separate changes [1] helps (e.g. you should not mix
> whitespace cleanups with functional changes). But the fact is that in
> virtually all languages (and bash and ksh) there's an idiom to declare
> a local variable and *only* declare a local variable (not do anything
> else).
>
> Can we at least agree on that? In zsh typeset does *two* things.
I'd rather say that «typeset» does one thing — it ${verb}s a variable
(for some value of $verb) — and the zsh data model doesn't feature
a "Not really a value" value, so the variable necessarily gets _some_
value, like «int foo;» in C.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-27 15:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-11 15:57 Felipe Contreras
2020-11-11 16:13 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-11-11 16:56 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-11 17:02 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-11-11 18:03 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-11 18:16 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-11-11 20:42 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-12 0:20 ` Mikael Magnusson
2020-11-12 1:10 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-12 8:45 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-11-12 10:47 ` Peter Stephenson
2020-11-12 18:48 ` Bart Schaefer
2020-11-12 19:49 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-12 18:46 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-12 19:10 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-11-12 21:08 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-13 8:51 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-11-14 0:52 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-14 5:41 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-11-16 19:41 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-16 20:22 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-11-17 20:28 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-18 22:45 ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-11-22 1:20 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-23 4:00 ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-11-23 6:18 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-19 2:59 ` Bart Schaefer
2020-11-22 1:50 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-17 20:54 ` Bart Schaefer
2020-11-22 1:49 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-23 6:48 ` Bart Schaefer
2020-11-23 7:26 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-23 20:26 ` Bart Schaefer
2020-11-23 23:39 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-24 0:52 ` Bart Schaefer
2020-11-25 8:46 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-27 15:44 ` Daniel Shahaf [this message]
2020-11-27 20:49 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-27 20:59 ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-11-27 21:33 ` Bart Schaefer
2020-11-27 23:37 ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-11-27 23:45 ` Bart Schaefer
2020-11-28 0:24 ` Bart Schaefer
2020-11-28 7:32 ` Bart Schaefer
2020-11-28 12:05 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-12 19:26 ` Bart Schaefer
2020-11-12 21:48 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-13 22:17 ` Bart Schaefer
2020-11-14 0:58 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-11 18:36 ` Bart Schaefer
2020-11-11 21:08 ` Felipe Contreras
2020-11-11 17:02 ` Peter Stephenson
2020-11-11 18:05 ` Felipe Contreras
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