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From: Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
To: zsh-workers@zsh.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] declarednull: rename DECLARED to NULL
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 06:17:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210104061718.GB14783@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH+w=7ZL0KGcd8b4mmRhMSPuX-bEgMZi5XG7G37vLo1m87GUAg@mail.gmail.com>

Bart Schaefer wrote on Sun, Jan 03, 2021 at 10:26:48 -0800:
> No, that's not it.  I'm trying to find a word that describes the STATE
> of the variable, independent of its value.  It happens that the "spec"
> that we're importing from posix-ish shells means that this particular
> state is always paired with the state of "unset-ness" but regardless
> of your arguments of functional equivalence, neither of these states
> is an actual value of NULL.

Could you summarize the bits that need to be named and the corresponding shell
language incantations/semantics?

Is this anything like using «struct foo **p» in C to denote a single parameter
that has three possible states:
.
    (!p)
    (p && !*p)
    (p && *p)

> > So It seems your code and my code agree with the behavior of both A
> > and B. The only unknown is what A and B mean.
> >
> > Agreed?
> 
> Yes, although I would not say "unknown".  More like "unnamed".  Also,
> your script doesn't observe that "current zsh: B(on)" does not mean
> the same thing that "patched zsh: B(on)" means (at least for my patch
> and I think for yours).
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-04  6:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-28 22:13 Felipe Contreras
2021-01-03  1:18 ` Bart Schaefer
2021-01-03  2:38   ` Felipe Contreras
2021-01-03 18:26     ` Bart Schaefer
2021-01-04  6:17       ` Daniel Shahaf [this message]
2021-01-04 21:57         ` Bart Schaefer
2021-01-06 16:02           ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-01-06 17:33             ` Bart Schaefer
2021-01-07 15:48               ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-01-07 22:29                 ` Bart Schaefer
2021-03-27 19:24               ` Lawrence Velázquez
2021-03-27 20:42                 ` Bart Schaefer
2021-03-29  0:44                   ` Oliver Kiddle
2021-04-10 18:56                     ` Bart Schaefer
2021-04-10 21:58                       ` Oliver Kiddle
2021-04-10 22:35                         ` Bart Schaefer

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