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Wed, 7 Apr 2021 12:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: by tarpaulin.shahaf.local2 (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 4FFqVR6rbYz4p; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 16:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2021 16:24:47 +0000 From: Daniel Shahaf To: Marlon Cc: Zsh hackers list Subject: Re: Rewrite of zsh-newuser-install (Mikael's subthread) Message-ID: <20210407162447.GB6316@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Seq: 48422 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Marlon wrote on Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 16:44:54 +0300: > On 6. Apr 2021, at 0.44, Bart Schaefer wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 12:44 PM Mikael Magnusson wrote: > >> Overall I think there's a bit too much stuff in here. It's longer than > >> some (many) actual personal .zshrc files I've seen. > > > > I tend to agree. > > The feedback I’ve gotten, however, from the Zsh packagers for ALT Linux, Adélie Linux, openSuse and Fedora is that it’s good stuff. :) I think there's a distinction to be drawn between "stuff we should enable in the default zshrc" and "cool stuff that people might want to use, or read to learn about useful tricks/features". I agree with Mikael and Bart that most of your zshrc falls under the latter category. That has its place (cf. Misc/vcs_info-examples), but it's too magical for the default. That's also one of the standard criticisms against oh-my-zsh, by the way. > Some quotes: > > "this zshrc offers a lot of tricks I personally wanted to use but didn't know they were already implemented; thanks a lot for shining a light on them!” > > "I gave it a spin and it looks very nice, much less scary than the default one. I've checked the default .zshrc and it looks fine to me." If the author of the second quote wishes to join this thread, they're of course welcome to do so. They might change their opinion, or change ours. Cheers, Daniel