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Fri, 2 Sep 2022 05:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by tarpaulin.shahaf.local2 (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4MJsmK6pq0z3Kk; Fri, 2 Sep 2022 09:18:57 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2022 09:18:57 +0000 From: Daniel Shahaf To: zsh-workers@zsh.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] FAQ: sync newuser-install Message-ID: <20220902091857.GH5920@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Seq: 50572 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Mikael Magnusson wrote on Fri, Sep 02, 2022 at 05:46:12 +0200: > On 9/2/22, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > It is unreasonable to force absolutely every new user to set these > > options just to get started. > > "Paste these lines in .zshrc to enable history" is not more > complicated with 3 lines than 1, however much you want to argue that > it is. They still need to find the line(s) to copy in the first place > (or god forbid, read the documentation). Copy-pasting three lines is as easy as one, sure. /Understanding/ them, however, is a different kettle of fish. If one has set three special variables, then one needs to read three zshparam(1) entries rather than one. (That's basically why I suggested divorcing "enable history" from "specify the history filename": to reduce the number of moving parts that need to be grokked.) As an attempt at a minimal example, imagine showing either of the following lines, chosen at random by a fair coin, to someone who's just learning to read, and asking them what the line prints: printf "%s plus %s is %s." "One" "one" "2" printf "%s plus %s is %d." "One" "one" "2" If we did the experiment, I think we'd find non-C-programmers are more likely to correctly guess the first line than the second. HTH Daniel