From: Stephane Chazelas <stephane@chazelas.org>
To: Zsh hackers list <zsh-workers@zsh.org>
Subject: \M-^C vs \203 vs \x83 as visual representations of bytes
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 09:07:51 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240225090751.yqb23ewm4pgocg7e@chazelas.org> (raw)
I guess \M-^C (or \M-\C-C) as the representation of 0x83 made
sense to people in the 80s/90s when they could actually type
Meta-Ctrl-C on their keyboard to input them.
Noaways, you can still enter ^C with Ctrl+C but bytes >= 0x80
are used for non-ASCII characters, and Alt-C usually sends ^[c
(0x1b 0x63) and Alt-Ctrl-C ^[^C (0x1b 0x3)
I find the \x83 representation more useful when giving visual
representations of bytes not forming part of a printable
characters (and \uffff / \U0010ffff for valid but non-printable
multi-byte characters). Octal used to be more popular than hex,
but I think nowadays it's the reverse, though I still find \203
more useful than \M-^C if not \x83.
What do people think?
Would it make sense to change some of the output intended for
user consumption such as:
$ a=$'\x83'
$ typeset a
a=$'\M-\C-C'
$ print -r ${(q+)a}
$'\M-\C-C'
$ (set -x; : $a)
+/bin/zsh:29> : $'\M-\C-C'
$ let $a
zsh: bad math expression: illegal character: \M-C
$ let 1+$a
zsh: bad math expression: operand expected at `\M-^C'
(another M-C vs M-^C bug above by the way).
Comparison with some other tools/shells:
$ echo $a | cat -v
M-^C
$ echo $a | sed -n l
\203$
$ bash -xc 'printf "%q\n" "$a"'
+ printf '%q\n' $'\203'
$'\203'
$ ksh -xc 'printf "%q\n" "$a"'
+ printf '%q\n' $'\x83'
$'\x83'
--
Stephane
next reply other threads:[~2024-02-25 9:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-25 9:07 Stephane Chazelas [this message]
2024-02-25 17:26 ` Mark J. Reed
2024-02-25 18:50 ` Stephane Chazelas
2024-02-25 20:54 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-02-25 18:25 ` Stephane Chazelas
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