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From: Wolfgang Hukriede <whukriede@googlemail.com>
To: zsh-workers@sunsite.dk
Subject: Re: Echoing of 8-bit-characters broken after 4.3.2?
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:00:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2493fbfb0902281400r5d56ef91r74d55433eddf51be@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

Andrey wrote:
> Because this is established standard to define your character set
> properties. Without it applications should assume C (or POSIX) locale
> that basically corresponds to standard ASCII.

Should the character set properties not be set by LC_CTYPE? As far as
I can tell LANG sets more than that? Do I understand correctly that
LANG is zsh-specific? (On my box, man 3 setlocale does not have it.)

> So I would be surprised if
> zsh were the only program that had issues with non-ASCII characters.

At least emacs passes them through without ado. There's only one other
program that I had problems with in that respect. (That's unicode
only.) Looks like more will come...

> FreeBSD could provide some other means to define local though.

Not that I know of.

> Because blindly emitting arbitrary character sequence to terminal may
> have completely undefined effects and screw up display to the point that
> you need hard reset (town legend also is that you can cause you terminal
> to echo back any sequence like "rm -rf" as input back to shell ...)

Urban legends aside, this may be. Otoh... I've been using zsh since at
least 10 years almost exclusively and quite intensely and have used
8-bit-characters all the time (all on xterms), but any display
distortion never happened to me. This is probably due to the fact that
filenames are mostly under ones own control. I suffered display
distortion from reading emails though, but the shell could not have
done anything about that. Correctness of vt100-control-sequences
cannot be monitored either.

Therefore I think passing-through of eight bit characters should be
configurable. But I still do not understand how am I supposed to do
that (without triggering side effects). Why is PRINT_EIGHT_BIT
constricted to affect tab-completion only?


             reply	other threads:[~2009-02-28 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-28 22:00 Wolfgang Hukriede [this message]
2009-03-01  0:12 ` Phil Pennock
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-02-28 20:31 Wolfgang Hukriede
2009-02-28 20:49 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2009-02-28 23:01   ` Bart Schaefer
2009-02-28 19:52 Wolfgang Hukriede
2009-02-28 20:40 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2009-02-28  8:35 Wolfgang Hukriede
2009-02-28 17:53 ` Bart Schaefer
2009-02-28 19:07   ` Andrey Borzenkov
2009-02-28 19:19     ` Bart Schaefer
2009-02-28 19:29       ` Andrey Borzenkov

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