From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15924 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2005 08:58:44 -0000 Received: from news.dotsrc.org (HELO a.mx.sunsite.dk) (130.225.247.88) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 15 Jul 2005 08:58:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 2146 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2005 08:58:38 -0000 Received: from sunsite.dk (130.225.247.90) by a.mx.sunsite.dk with SMTP; 15 Jul 2005 08:58:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 10014 invoked by alias); 15 Jul 2005 08:58:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-workers-help@sunsite.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 21474 Received: (qmail 10005 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2005 08:58:35 -0000 Received: from news.dotsrc.org (HELO a.mx.sunsite.dk) (130.225.247.88) by sunsite.dk with SMTP; 15 Jul 2005 08:58:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 1905 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2005 08:58:34 -0000 Received: from cluster-e.mailcontrol.com (HELO rly14e.srv.mailcontrol.com) (217.79.216.190) by a.mx.sunsite.dk with SMTP; 15 Jul 2005 08:58:28 -0000 Received: from iris.logica.co.uk (iris.logica.co.uk [158.234.9.163]) by rly14e.srv.mailcontrol.com (MailControl) with ESMTP id j6F8wMsM017594 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:58:23 +0100 Received: from trentino.logica.co.uk ([158.234.142.59]) by iris.logica.co.uk (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian -4) with ESMTP id j6F8wMOP030475 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:58:22 +0100 Received: from trentino.groupinfra.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by trentino.logica.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0054C7BB1A for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:58:21 +0200 (CEST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-StarScan-Version: 5.0.7; banners=.,-,- In-reply-to: <200507141743.j6EHhxep028667@news01.csr.com> From: Oliver Kiddle References: <3060c2390507101559320eb09c@mail.gmail.com> <200507141203.j6EC3Ktf015537@news01.csr.com> <1050714150608.ZM28405@candle.brasslantern.com> <200507141743.j6EHhxep028667@news01.csr.com> To: zsh-workers@sunsite.dk Subject: Re: Good, easy to use, upstream defaults for zsh (i.e. improving usability) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:58:21 +0200 Message-ID: <29524.1121417901@trentino.groupinfra.com> X-Scanned-By: MailControl A-05-01-05 (www.mailcontrol.com) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 on a.mx.sunsite.dk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=6.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Hits: -2.5 Peter wrote: > One thing that occurs to me is that we need to make it easy for admins > to override the defaults. Hence I think it should look in, say, The problem with leaving it to admins to define the defaults is that the defaults then vary. A module for installing skeleton startup files isn't a bad idea but I think we should then distribute our recommended skeletons. It is better when admins limit customisations to things that are specific to the machine (environment variables like JAVA_HOME for instance). The other thing we might consider is changing the default set of options that are enabled for interactive shells. autocd is a good candidate because it is fairly harmless if you don't know about it. extended_glob is perhaps less appropriate because it forces more special characters to require quoting. This was done before in early 3.1.x versions if I'm not mistaken. And before we add any newuser module, what would we actually want to put in the default skeleton configuration? Oliver This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you.