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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:VvdMfzVClzHC0yo8pgHJkqxe9/ZgJhZY8bNogmJoTu7HiZ8n1IY cxCrHzn+BVSJU1b71xEPuhzsY8+GpzD3MdoG8nh2VFYTbTjNydI73Rmo7qoVpciJ6KvxWhm WME/HCApOlGE0J4CsrQofmREPwdUrR8jeOTQve8nUyQA/mlFmNPeu+PXZsXoOgXw+hX01EY R2VFAryhvCLv5quBYf94A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:WU+Ggw37Rmc=:agzwatSbu4fQH9HT7LeSYu nJwSq9CKGT+9nJt9hodGIXpf9mv+2H19pzhScJyE6mv84p3KGKLtR1EBHbPHXID/HqPhvhLD+ K7uDtsunx/opLT4gkZ0iaoNbs3Irg3viqS/zvpOUzaIiWShvs4q4WOoMhaM1DPYOtxAAo9cGr 5R66q3RdJf0Gf6lLIKqq3RTXfbmdEqJBQPCdvKSKTB9OA3oU5eUNQP96vbqDHHywO06oLmd7O TE3uqOxOHMkt/YLD0SPdVqx6AR3LBpCaoMaAhjpPytqLPBMwXTwY/LekHJEH26mi8qIv0OefG ANZp1sWMAUJL2WcBq9PuyxhMgafkMkB9SOOPKEnHR3cE0aXt+xesaiVyiExFmtBObecKU3geP brK8p8HsFmegho3r2a9DczMn838XNmmnUcvIgv0aiesaNSKr88U+aOkifGXvfC+pGHKwEgDz6 iXpgp7dUlr5BpHWw1Am/LrMOL1l9c12MEctfn0d+iv3OdDo+BgYVq0Jhy8ag2l32fQ7vRRybb U0wYVdb/hbsnjVI3vFwSfL1lKGDgKVfvRuDsnPDRxwY+9LluIoH7GH+FDK5XwmlQ7ewryma/4 hwmF8tf59u+Q3AK7L6euOvVQr5DNRjBHU+vWKl8FsYvGZ/iZqpEvckgAlpvt2622OAUPVGJmX cxmryPSOES4/GJTtlQ1uTp7wOqawkbGNjKsd/h9yliv8JN4ftRtlqXqpedS+k8/aqNQhQluRd WzyTR1XM0YaySvF1tgwfZ0Vm6sYUIi4Pw8NZkfUqWrJSdqpIVyl7tUuVBU+T8vZQVKYx7Pg3g W+Pa845ujXWYNEv8Yr7zmKx9pO2N16O+sb5ftIWxDG9ES95tppVqTc4n27rdq19A8IAuB+Tn2 gH6q8p5wy+zDbr2zzT0jIABkjth/5EZBHRTdSjNRUO7Q/SFzFJwM8uF+d/ILdk9ywUBIGz5fu +yyUctD9RdBuEfuGyng0CHopxqpff/MWK47/wdjFWXWBvkDuiriWYpfxoEwWcdeQxatlzX/F+ z7A2Q2a81PDttAMi5EbgQ4dimUPGUCxtRfj0h4JGjMHnme2WHnXMZFF3v+rszt6Dq66C5x8Q1 YWtQeyTjF2c7lAUyXphxKyEDeXSyJpTE1lxZhwuPApTqeNhoecGvDxM2w== X-Seq: 50506 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On 8/24/22 13:32, Felipe Contreras wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 4:12 AM Daniel Shahaf w= rote: >> >> Felipe Contreras wrote on Wed, 24 Aug 2022 04:31 +00:00: >>> Better to use the same HISTFILE in both. >> >> Agreed, but... >> >>> +++ b/Etc/FAQ.yo >>> @@ -1629,7 +1629,7 @@ label(321) >>> In zsh, you need to set the location where you want the history to= be written >>> with tt($HISTFILE). For example, >>> verb( >>> - HISTFILE=3D~/.zsh_history >>> + HISTFILE=3D~/.histfile >> >> The default name should include "zsh" somewhere for coexistence with >> other programs. So, I'd rather keep the FAQ as-is. > > I agree having a '.zsh_' prefix is more consistent with other > programs, but then that's what should be in the newuser-install > script, no? > > I actually think this should be the default, no need for *everyone* to > specify this. > Yes *everyone* should specify it. Aside from the arbitrary bump in HISTSIZE, if HISTFILE is set by default a= nd zsh is invoked with -f which is common when debugging or testing you get t= he expected defaults. But if the user typically increases SAVEHIST from said default, because regardless of what you set it to, people will change it t= o their preference, you create the same problem that other shells like bash = have, the truncation of HISTFILE to the default SAVEHIST upon the exit of that z= sh -f session. usually without the user noticing for a period of time.