From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16003 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2000 22:07:35 -0000 Received: from sunsite.auc.dk (130.225.51.30) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 17 Jul 2000 22:07:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 19978 invoked by alias); 17 Jul 2000 22:07:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-workers-help@sunsite.auc.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 12285 Received: (qmail 19971 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2000 22:07:07 -0000 Sender: opk Message-ID: <3973751E.2CFC476E@u.genie.co.uk> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2000 22:05:34 +0100 From: Oliver Kiddle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.16 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: zsh workers mailing list Subject: Re: adding a toplevel zsh.spec.in file References: <1000707181834.ZM1473@candle.brasslantern.com> <20000717160933.B6739@thelonious.new.ox.ac.uk> <1000717174853.ZM22633@candle.brasslantern.com> <20000717190728.A9091@thelonious.new.ox.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I very much agree with Bart on these points. If we are going to have default /etc/z* files in a generated rpm package they should be as minimal as possible. We should stress the point to people installing zsh that they should only put things in global setup files that really should be in them. My definition of that is only things which are necessary for the specifics of the local setup so only adding a few things to the PATH and setting any variables necessary for programs to run. Adam Spiers wrote: > > } HISTSIZE=1000 > > } HISTFILE=~/.zshhistory > Why is this messing with your preferences? It's only setting a > default which each user can override, surely? Maybe a user can override it but it isn't necessarily obvious whether the significant value for these variables is the first or last value they get. I never trust these things until I've checked them out. I also sometimes like to know that I have a clean zsh when I run it as a different user or whatever. If we want to provide examples of clever zsh startup files which enable all the bells and whistles, I think it is much better to put them on the web page where they can clearly be labeled as what they are. Anything in the distribution is likely to be taken as something which is supposed to be installed in /etc. Oliver