Re: Rewrite of zsh-newuser-install

[dana <dana@dana.is>]

On 11 Feb 2021, at 23:59, Roman Perepelitsa <roman.perepelitsa@gmail.com> wrote:
> In my opinion the default config shouldn't aim to provide the best
> solution to anything: the best history setup, the best prompt, etc. It
> should make zsh usable by someone who considers bash usable out of the
> box (e.g., on Debian) but other than that be as simple and as short as
> possible.

I'll be a little busy for a while, so i can't comment on the latest revisions
now, but i wanted to point out that some of zsh's biggest distributors already
provide default configs that go beyond the limitations you seem to be
advocating; for example, both macOS and Debian (+ its derivatives) change the
default options and use terminfo to set key bindings.

That's an important consideration imo because it doesn't seem like creating an
up-stream config that does less than what people are already getting for zsh
defaults in the real world will be very useful to anyone. It may be nice for
completeness's sake to have something 'official', but presumably neither those
distributors nor their users will be very interested in it if they already
have something that does the same job or better.

I'm not sure about the others, but my personal desire with a config like this
was to reduce the perceived need that people have to immediately go out and
install something like OMZ. We can't make much of a dent in that if it's *too*
minimal. That said, i do think there are plenty of things that are outside the
scope of that goal, like fancy Unicode characters and clocks in the prompt.
(Looks like those aren't in the current revision, but just for example i
mean.) I'm starting to agree that XDGBDS is excessive too. Maybe some other
things. I definitely don't think it needs to be 'the best'... just nice enough
that people might actually use it.

That's my thinking anyway

dana