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From: Clinton Bunch <cdb_zsh@zentaur.org>
To: zsh-workers@zsh.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] zsh/random module [UPDATED]
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 23:05:25 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3c902982-0602-5b16-80fb-355ddaa4fe12@zentaur.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH+w=7atKP-NE2=H85TcywSwE7nwJufr_jvv=-w-zgcvQJF3qw@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/20/2022 10:17 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 7:16 PM Lawrence Velázquez <larryv@zsh.org> wrote:
>> The concern is about publishing (and thus committing to) a complex
>> API right out of the gate, only to later realize that it is inelegant

The only thing that feels inelegant about the getrandom command is the 
hex-string default, and I would welcome suggestions for a better default 
action.

On a side note, while implementing getrandom, I found myself wishing zsh 
implemented typeset -ia (and -Fa)

> This could be addressed by NOT defining getrandom as an autoloaded
> builtin, so that a user would have to explicitly name it with zmodload
> -ab, and document it as experimental.
I was originally against autoloading, though I now think that SRANDOM 
should be, but I'm not opposed to getrandom and zrandom having to be 
explicitly loaded.
>
> Actually this could be done with -ap for SRANDOM and -af for zrandom,
> as well, but they're much simpler and the only reasonable quibble
> might be with the name "zrandom".
Not tied to the name, but plain random felt wrong somehow.
>
> Incidentally, Clinton, I didn't look closer at the patch before
> because the use of ".patch" as a name suffix meant I had download it
> and open it in an external editor instead of just perusing it along
> with my email.
>
Yeah, after I posted, I saw you make a similar comment to someone else.  
I'll use .txt next time.  Incidentally this suggestion might be a good 
candidate for inclusion in the developer's guide when pasting into the 
message is not desirable.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-21  5:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-02 17:13 [PATCH] zsh/random module Clinton Bunch
2022-11-03 17:50 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-11-04  3:17 ` dana
2022-11-04  6:22   ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-04  7:27     ` dana
2022-11-04 12:57       ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-08  0:18         ` [PATCH] zsh/random module [UPDATED] Clinton Bunch
2022-11-18 14:30           ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-19  6:42             ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-11-18 16:23           ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-18 17:08             ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-18 18:12               ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-18 18:38                 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-23 19:52                   ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-24 16:19                     ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-24 16:30                       ` Roman Perepelitsa
2022-11-24 22:39                         ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-25  8:53                           ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-25  9:40                             ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-28 16:37                               ` further discussion of zsh/random (was [PATCH] zsh/random module [UPDATED]) Clinton Bunch
2022-11-21  1:07           ` [PATCH] zsh/random module [UPDATED] Matthew Martin
2022-11-21  1:59             ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-21  2:21               ` Matthew Martin
2022-11-21  2:57                 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-21  3:14                   ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-11-21  4:17                     ` Bart Schaefer
2022-11-21  5:05                       ` Clinton Bunch [this message]
2022-11-22 13:42                         ` dana
2022-11-23 19:49                         ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-22 17:44                       ` Oliver Kiddle
2022-11-22 19:48                         ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-23  1:23                   ` Matthew Martin
2022-11-23  2:58                     ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-23  4:14                       ` Matthew Martin
2022-11-23 13:41                         ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-23 20:33                           ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-23 21:42                             ` dana
2022-11-23 23:54                               ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-24  0:17                                 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-24  1:05                                 ` dana
2022-11-24 13:52                               ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-23 19:46           ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-24  2:58             ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-24 10:07               ` nimaje+zml
2022-11-24 13:19                 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-24 14:33             ` Clinton Bunch

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