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Processed in 3.653873 secs); 20 Jul 2019 09:01:11 -0000 X-Envelope-From: SRS0=Mojh=VR=yahoo.co.uk=okiddle@bounces.park01.gkg.net X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | Received-SPF: pass (ns1.primenet.com.au: SPF record at bounces.park01.gkg.net designates 205.235.26.22 as permitted sender) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at gkg.net Authentication-Results: amavisd4.gkg.net (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=yahoo.co.uk X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s2048; t=1563613136; bh=hbbBM/TH9aVP+O7xiiDgIJwjCkr+HRfpiuOlpy3qJS0=; h=From:References:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=oDJC/TB4/8uQKkOFqRGcaDIw4qk5mpkh5cRqMHMB6/wLiavPVAkY+xGz2+Fue/nU4FNhmTWlaHCMGFhplGj8a6G+pmJZvvnAl8SQchJ2UTpCziXNYNFv98X5DNntbvFkK0dJEspZ4SPuxhbBC0asvJDMFNsZbD/QV1i6Ocb5yAPA7oEv4B3v7l1G/1VsX5FH+gUFDYMOZAOLe5pbfr1CHqKTZLh+LxbBihP+VjBEyKPR0+isS9A46La4Gi1beDFxMFEgwlHwSAGgcsEssWYK4CIDGISievg0XDCEBugSyUvJGmx5jIFcPCp6eMqHTOr6UwkCdU4+DC1IG5hSHjF84w== X-YMail-OSG: PVCT7VMVM1lJBRpZTlScww68bAgwqvTA4TOpJCxyivUlzH0DQP9lWDKe47PeBfN q_fGjvp8f3oa9vAKhk0Ye69_IEzZ.9.Qt3CfaJDN6zuGY2V4BaUa9oqkBDtWjrSpRk5YDKg6KrrX mer48c7CqrQX7vv6hfqJG4A0SsgAEkNa4cfmyFGzLfQDl2IQQDaVU1bYiOWwlKHRM27uXJ3JQZ6U xVQNfWYxsmCH8oocNh8yrg4W9WZebs2mfsa9voJ9S6l9PghtioULR_Uv2BTpMzcRTAFgRLm72FHX pu_qgK6vzdeBsVbu9JI6d4iF9NUTYHUT4hztMheVNrZYwvopYRcdn6Tr4Zo68Kl7TfCzUcmPUcUs V0BhgBr1aRkxp0luGS1oodwRHtBgkjDNPdOhkYba_Fc9hdjI4ZjwGU0HGDUs5IRxCMK_K2FLit8e k8ciFy1ejEDIw9tNj5rIL365U7qUhaeKWvQ.JfpiFX0eDijuwhBDN0EPOItgz4jnLA7qt30oHMmH PV645P0XffcrxieJyjdcBoLJ_RYci5Pw33WJfKsJW32Ia87FpWmJJbOXB3Aqg1rhnuOYzBy58BiG 6TKod7DFoDMZdpiQkKqRUU9YaGbKXiZzLCP9ZJhYLcEmUEZ0TTxLr4dmRdEriDrBefRd3vppwe2o ZjD5sd4VynfvclDoAaAU3zYHPwv5opFm0nsDiCPtQN0mI5KPw8im_t3LNXlOWmnSaFS0SuXaGVJN r_78ikezY5Ciirp6FSrZMYDW40iUqAeTSBumML8T29KYQ6b4YRKW.U7coUOdRbFL3CyrZgJcJ76u bWSAnvIOa2KLLboYpfrFyPYeiObuGXJkEA8qTP4CNeAhifM.LmGY.N_WbMASpbrQb3Og03yNk7fk vTOPFJhVZYCWy5muAT_Sv0YvzvGHGZN4nYMWGuQ3hFaXOZ39OShmtUxfPg7K3uh0ZQBTvqModERq FVm7d6bqm5Rer._fwshMSYvSr8qk4e_PeIzO_v4mbgku7.8wBk3xbXc4ukzI3jQEVwaxDVSomSZr DqXa1.Z7HxFzN8l_POZsr4I51Hcx_UEy7jMclrBCMh..HXKHEVy0GZCj8BVoe.iaAZr8ckOYAL7N MUtDJlCD31vpMn7QHO0IgZgE__BtSwH570OE3Sz4ji0h96FkueYmuN9WgzRjDbrgE3rYt6d4kTG9 lzzMoFascDI8zKM4wDTEzKFTXl2woMQ-- cc: Zsh hackers list In-reply-to: From: Oliver Kiddle References: <95208-1561675878.358761@oOx4.pGSX.EcaY> <20190628101238.dscl5mryiilbh5ib@chaz.gmail.com> <16e3d1cda40ac09f136a9bd2d0aa94cf2a9e89e9.camel@fifi.org> <20190716095545.ubqmqllpy75466al@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> <20190716100506.oxbsnhssnjjk3b77@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> To: justindorfman@gmail.com Subject: Re: Logo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <44027.1563613133.1@hydra> Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 10:58:53 +0200 Message-ID: <44028-1563613133.663566@KjFs.O3KT.H3eH> Justin Dorfman wrote: > @Bart, > > As a general remark on this process ... it's great to see people's > > feedback, but frankly I would nominate PWS and Oliver to have veto power on If we're granting such powers, it would be remiss not to also nominate Bart. > @Oliver > > In principle, I like the way you're going with 6-10 of not duplicating > > the Z but can also see Phil's point - it needs to read as "zsh". > > What if I redo that, with "Zsh" next to all? I think you've perhaps misunderstood me. By 'it needs to READ as "zsh"', what I mean is that someone glancing at the logo as a whole needs to see "zsh" - not "Zzsh" or "sh". I wasn't dismissing the approach in 6-10. If anything, I prefer it. I think other people mentioned ideas for bringing it more together like extending the leg of the Z under the sh. Or maybe a cursor following the % under the sh. In 6 and 7, it helps that the font for "SH" is more similar but slightly more slant may be better. While I like 7, the background has forced more distance to the "SH". With "Zsh" next to the logo as in 1,3-5, it becomes more about separation. I'd be interested to see what 3 looks like in 4 colours. Oliver