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From: "Daniel Shahaf" <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
To: zsh-workers@zsh.org
Subject: Re: Test failures in --disable-multibyte
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2020 11:30:54 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46b2aa40-adcb-44ff-8e39-df98a9b2d235@www.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <64e62682e403332a89322b7f24983fa009c19fc0.camel@ntlworld.com>

Peter Stephenson wrote on Wed, 01 Jan 2020 18:01 +00:00:
> On Wed, 2020-01-01 at 13:44 +0000, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> > > It's not generally expected you'll want to disable multibyte explicitly,
> > > but it tests the case you get if you have a system which doesn't have
> > > the required multibyte support.  It's not clear if zsh gets compiled on
> > > such systems now --- they won't be very common but there might be some
> > > deliberately reduced systems for low-level use.  These only need testing
> > > in a similarly limited fashion.
> > 
> > This state of affairs doesn't sound quite right.  If those codepaths
> > need testing, the test suite should be made to pass in that
> > configuration, so that bugfixes would be able to be tested for
> > unintended side effects.  With no working test suite and no known
> > users, it sounds like --disable-multibyte is _de facto_ unsupported,
> > but we are not ready to officially pull the plug on it due to the
> > possibility of it being used on a C99-less embedded system somewhere.
> > So, how about having NEWS in 5.8 say that unless someone asks us to
> > continue supporting --disable-multibyte, it will become unsupported
> > and may be removed?
> 
> You're correct, it's de facto unsupported.  The difference is largely
> whether anyone gets around to fixing it, which is hard to predict --- I
> don't think the problems are likely to be hard.  So certainly it would
> be useful to get interest.  Alas, experience suggests most people don't
> take much notice until the point where it actually stops working for
> them.  So as long as we point out there are problems, I think whatever
> takes the least number of hostages to fortune is probably the right
> thing to say.
> 
> With the changes being largely minor and even cosmetic (but they're
> certainly not all cosmetic) it probably doesn't make sense to remove
> it any time soon.  But it could rot further, so possibly a warning is
> sensible.

A build-time warning, then?  I.e., have configure warn if --disable-multibyte
is selected (manually or automatically), or perhaps use a #warning at
the C level.  It could say something to the effect of "Compiling without
multibyte support is known not to pass 'make test'.  We recommend to
rebuild with --enable-multibyte.  Alternatively, fix the test suite and
send us the patches".

This will at least make the issue known to anyone who tries to disable
multibyte support for whatever reason.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-02 11:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-31 18:39 Daniel Shahaf
2019-12-31 19:46 ` Peter Stephenson
2020-01-01 13:44   ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-01-01 18:01     ` Peter Stephenson
2020-01-02 11:30       ` Daniel Shahaf [this message]
2020-01-03 10:15         ` Peter Stephenson
2020-01-03 20:11           ` [PATCH] Make --disable-multibyte warn, since the test suite fails in that configuration. (was: Re: Test failures in --disable-multibyte) Daniel Shahaf
2020-01-05 18:20             ` Peter Stephenson
2020-01-05 19:13               ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-01-06  9:44                 ` Peter Stephenson
2019-12-31 20:23 ` Test failures in --disable-multibyte dana

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