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From: Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
To: zsh-workers@zsh.org
Subject: Re: Aliasing separators (Re: grammar triviality with '&&')
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2015 09:18:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54FB32FF.90908@eastlink.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150307155252.75848f74@ntlworld.com>

On 03/07/2015 07:52 AM, Peter Stephenson wrote:
> If you did make that change, making "&&" a string rather than a token 
> at the start of the line, then you could alias it willy-nilly. So I 
> still don't really see it as relevant to the behaviour of tokens. I 
> suspect I'm not explaining this point properly. pws 

As for me, I didn't realize I'd be guilty of being a party to the 
creation of an ouroboros.
Can it even be contemplated to make fundamental syntax aliasable? Can I 
alias
a backtick?  Can I alias the word alias?  Not on this side of sanity.  I 
dunno, maybe
what you guys are contemplating makes sense, but it sure looks like the 
time-traveler's
paradox to me. Allowing syntax to change it's own meaning?  Is there 
anywhere in this
universe where aliasing '&&' is useful, even if it didn't create 
paradox?  I myself am
happy with Bart's last explanation, it's robust, understandable, 
necessary, fundamental.

[ -e file1 ]\
&& do-this

isn't hard to type.  Pandora, meet Kurt Godel, meet Doctor Who.

Lawrence, forgive me ;-)


  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-07 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]                 ` <20150304144756.GA27231@ypig.lip.ens-lyon.fr>
2015-03-04 15:18                   ` grammar triviality with '&&' Peter Stephenson
2015-03-04 21:13                     ` Daniel Shahaf
2015-03-04 22:05                     ` Mikael Magnusson
2015-03-05  9:46                       ` Peter Stephenson
     [not found]                   ` <150304175112.ZM19818@torch.brasslantern.com>
     [not found]                     ` <20150305100638.55631238@pwslap01u.europe.root.pri>
2015-03-05 17:07                       ` Aliasing separators (Re: grammar triviality with '&&') Bart Schaefer
2015-03-05 17:40                         ` Peter Stephenson
2015-03-06  1:42                           ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-06  4:13                             ` Mikael Magnusson
2015-03-06 16:43                               ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-03-06  9:40                             ` Peter Stephenson
2015-03-06 19:26                               ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-07 15:52                                 ` Peter Stephenson
2015-03-07 17:18                                   ` Ray Andrews [this message]
2015-03-07 21:10                                   ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-09 11:46                                     ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-03-09 16:33                                       ` Peter Stephenson
2015-03-09 17:03                                         ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-09 17:39                                           ` Peter Stephenson
2015-03-09 17:47                                           ` Ray Andrews

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