From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12386 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2008 14:02:12 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from news.dotsrc.org (HELO a.mx.sunsite.dk) (130.225.247.88) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 30 Jul 2008 14:02:12 -0000 Received-SPF: none (ns1.primenet.com.au: domain at sunsite.dk does not designate permitted sender hosts) Received: (qmail 32739 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2008 14:02:09 -0000 Received: from sunsite.dk (130.225.247.90) by a.mx.sunsite.dk with SMTP; 30 Jul 2008 14:02:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 77 invoked by alias); 30 Jul 2008 14:02:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-workers-help@sunsite.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 25358 Received: (qmail 60 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2008 14:02:05 -0000 Received: from bifrost.dotsrc.org (130.225.254.106) by sunsite.dk with SMTP; 30 Jul 2008 14:02:05 -0000 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by bifrost.dotsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEBF8027216 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:01:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id v27so28996wah.21 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:01:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WJQ6FPX8hQTzHjtNqzm9eLmVvY/ew5eIaiuhKnmYMYc=; b=Z257L80FZn5D2+2IIwcsvVeub+QueMCTmRQxksApwx3fkPQr2thGEaeWzjORYk9pNL kUsDwzEFvxPV5+o0RZFoVteUqdqOHbe42grv0iXkZ9PZmstp1rlSeZYTK9oyNH/MM9bA 1+jruNLs7N8MffrjNuOe4TaoiYxyPNKE40L/E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=NMU5uS+vDQsCTv+o9G7i+v3kdMQt2UF21s9Mt++rnSF0PbGkJtCCbnv2QOBh9jDwu+ fDkXeuIYGWVBu4hrHZYLAaixVdnFy0TQkYC13//Rfuhc3QAuYPMTsusrAn5UQb2PkFJU ujgoYPVh1WZVh93ovn3le0Cys9jQiqqH3/r/0= Received: by 10.115.19.19 with SMTP id w19mr8486297wai.195.1217426517252; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.159.2 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:01:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6cd6de210807300701v6d42080cgaff93fd95a87f08e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:01:57 -0400 From: "Rocky Bernstein" To: zsh-workers@sunsite.dk Subject: Re: trap DEBUG should get run beforehand, not afterwards. In-Reply-To: <080730063846.ZM9004@torch.brasslantern.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6cd6de210807291937p5e864c38o6dd9785acf62632c@mail.gmail.com> <200807300823.m6U8Ndvs016235@news01.csr.com> <6cd6de210807300624j37ade3a3r91f1e0e03ad07188@mail.gmail.com> <080730063846.ZM9004@torch.brasslantern.com> X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.92.1, clamav-milter version 0.92.1 on bifrost X-Virus-Status: Clean On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 9:38 AM, Bart Schaefer wrote: > On Jul 30, 9:24am, Rocky Bernstein wrote: > } > } A minor quibble is that the default is set in a way that will likely > } cause confusion and the learning zsh-specific remedy . Are most of the > } zsh defaults set so that they are compatible with ksh88 and bash 2.05a > } and before? > > No, they're set so that they are compatible with previous versions of > zsh. You'll find, as you follow the -workers list more, that we're > very concerned -- a lot more so than most OSS projects nowadays, it > seems to me, but also rightly so in my opinion -- with breaking the > expectations of long-time users. > Sure. I understand. Is there any evidence that this would break any expectations? That's the other question I asked.