From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 10598 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2022 03:23:50 -0000 Received: from zero.zsh.org (2a02:898:31:0:48:4558:7a:7368) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 27 Sep 2022 03:23:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zsh.org; s=rsa-20210803; h=List-Archive:List-Owner:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Id:Sender:Content-Type:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date: References:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Mime-Version:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID; bh=evqbvqEFBVz0lw2b+TJSMrtKoqT6EDhBJ1fQro93h+c=; b=cKMppsfjMJP4qTQg7jtiv+JJEe S9UwvqXiluL92uWmWg25UZbo9yHjqs3qd7QItrBNWZQxmPX4tdUD4a39iI40vs2RzPlS7TrWlvzjJ y34DGzduty7oGnPf0ww7qoZoxHVJAjjjlQHVEp0QXbqo80UwvFhNHlAz9eIL4basMxJRLqT4Xo6mW MP7g5qOZsSH/vhQCdIkdiis//VB3NFxk+HEGpVMqpIC2uNrI3nXevSd2bYQy4zAi/vVkWRKKR3KDP g/U3ckfFyyux7nt5WbE1S4QALMFB2gVysMBEToWdpGUkEVCRN3FNI7PByn1liCQ2FUxwuIi8B5pJ4 lxcxrxaA==; Received: from authenticated user by zero.zsh.org with local id 1od1CH-0001yi-Ej; Tue, 27 Sep 2022 03:23:49 +0000 Received: from authenticated user by zero.zsh.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) id 1od177-0001UD-Uh; Tue, 27 Sep 2022 03:18:30 +0000 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id E222327C0054; Mon, 26 Sep 2022 23:18:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imap48 ([10.202.2.98]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 26 Sep 2022 23:18:27 -0400 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvfedrfeegfedgjeduucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvfevufgtsehttdertderreejnecuhfhrohhmpefnrgif rhgvnhgtvggpgggvlhojiihquhgviicuoehlrghrrhihvhesiihshhdrohhrgheqnecugg ftrfgrthhtvghrnheptefgieeiudeiuefhkedtieeitefgudeugeffudekheduteeigefg veeuudejfffhnecuffhomhgrihhnpehilhhluhhmohhsrdhorhhgpdhisghmrdgtohhmne cuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheplhgrrhhr hihvodhmvghsmhhtphgruhhthhhpvghrshhonhgrlhhithihqdduudehudekjeejtdegqd duudelvdejfeekhedqlhgrrhhrhihvpeepiihshhdrohhrghesfhgrshhtmhgrihhlrdgt ohhm X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: iaa214773:Fastmail Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 2341131A0062; Mon, 26 Sep 2022 23:18:27 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.7.0-alpha0-968-g04df58079d-fm-20220921.001-g04df5807 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <6e0e440b-8e26-4a15-8f69-7b393aa6ff13@app.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 23:15:50 -0400 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Lawrence_Vel=C3=A1zquez?= To: "Bart Schaefer" Cc: zsh-workers@zsh.org, "Xiao Ling XL Chen" , "Kui K Zhang" Subject: Re: The request of words matter updated Content-Type: text/plain X-Seq: 50669 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On Mon, Sep 19, 2022, at 2:20 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote: > On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 11:58 PM Xiao Ling XL Chen wrote: >> >> ... as what the words matter requirement, may I ask change them in a future level? > > I support this effort in general +1 > but at the present time the Linux documentation for pty(7), > openpty(3), etc., still use the terms in question. (I haven't > checked other platforms.) FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD do as well. Illumos uses "manager" and "subsidiary" (https://illumos.org/man/4D/pty). AIX uses "controller" and "worker" (https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/aix/7.3?topic=files-pty-special-file). > Should we plan for this change to track the library terminology? Are Linux or the BSDs planning on making similar changes? If not, we could be waiting for a very long time. -- vq