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Subject: Re: In POSIX mode, ${#var} measures length in bytes, not characters
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07.06.2015, 04:24, "Bart Schaefer" <schaefer@brasslantern.com>:
> On Jun 7, š3:34am, ZyX wrote:
> } Subject: Re: In POSIX mode, ${#var} measures length in bytes, not characte
> }
> } 07.06.2015, 03:29, "Martijn Dekker" <martijn@inlv.org>:
> } > When in 'emulate sh' mode, ${#var} substitutes the length of the
> } > variable in bytes, not characters. This is contrary to the standard; the
> } > length in characters is supposed to be substituted.[*]
> } >
> } > Oddly enough, zsh is POSIX compliant here in native mode, but
> } > non-compliant in POSIX mode.
> }
> } Do you have a reference where "character" is defined? This behaviour
> } is the same in posh and dash:
>
> I thought this was discussed on the austin-group list but I can't find a
> search term to dig it out of the archives. š(I did find the thread about
> ${##} as a side-effect of the attempt.)
>
> On my Ubuntu 12.04 system, /bin/sh is a link to dash, so zsh invoked
> as sh behaves like /bin/sh. šOn CentOS, /bin/sh links to bash, so they
> behave differently.

Just checked out busybox (ash), it also emits 2 (recognizes unicode codepoints). Ksh emits 2, mksh 4.