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From: Philippe Troin <phil@fifi.org>
To: "zsh-workers@zsh.org" <zsh-workers@zsh.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] respect nullglob given multios
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 17:25:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8915ded7b3350db47105804659b99b2c3e07cf45.camel@fifi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1570725646.5885.4.camel@samsung.com>

On Thu, 2019-10-10 at 16:40 +0000, Peter Stephenson wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-10-10 at 01:18 +0000, Joe Rice wrote:
> > This patch makes multios behave less surprisingly with nullglob.
> > 
> > Currently, multios throws a file not found error when a nullglob is
> > given. This patch inserts /dev/null into the redirection list when
> > the
> > glob returns empty with no errors.
> > 
> > Is this a behavior that would interest anyone else? I find myself
> > using the `cat /dev/null *(N.)` idiom quite a bit and I thought the
> > behavior made sense for the null case in multios.
> 
> This does seem a logical effect, though it ought to be documented.

I am not sure if it's that logical.
What about if the pipeline on left of the redirection is something
expensive?
I'd rather have the command fail than starting a long-running job whose
output will be lost.

Also, conceptually, this introduces a difference between the behaviors
of an explicitly empty redirection and an empty redirection after
filename expansion.

Compare:
   % zsh -f
   % echo $ZSH_VERSION
   5.7.1
   % print nosuchfileprefix*(N)

   % print

   % print > nosuchfileprefix*(N) # Implicitly sends to /dev/null
   % print > 
   zsh: parse error near `\n'
   % 

I'd argue that the behavior should be the same: both should send to
/dev/null or not.

Incidentally, and as a completely separate issue, on an unpatched 5.7.1
zsh (Fedora 30 stock package), the command above succeeds and creates a
file:
   % print > nosuchfileprefix*(N)
   % ls nosuchfileprefix*(N)
   'nosuchfileprefix'$'\207\210''N'$'\212'

Is that expected?

Phil.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-11  0:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20191010011901epcas4p3219be0dd0e02bc7168787305e4e1dcf6@epcas4p3.samsung.com>
2019-10-10  1:18 ` Joe Rice
2019-10-10 16:40   ` Peter Stephenson
2019-10-11  0:25     ` Philippe Troin [this message]
2019-10-11  6:46       ` Joe Rice
2019-10-11  8:33         ` Peter Stephenson

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