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Wed, 19 Jan 2022 21:08:54 +0100 Received: from pws-Zeus ([82.1.229.179]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id AHGInLjU524zoAHGInh76q; Wed, 19 Jan 2022 21:08:54 +0100 X-SourceIP: 82.1.229.179 X-Authenticated-Sender: p.w.stephenson@ntlworld.com X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.4 cv=K8YxogaI c=1 sm=1 tr=0 ts=61e86fd6 cx=a_exe a=W4rGJ7PGCSRRUvufKHO8Dg==:117 a=W4rGJ7PGCSRRUvufKHO8Dg==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=DghFqjY3_ZEA:10 a=aWATkBIE0S0tEYRdjFQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ntlworld.com; s=meg.feb2017; t=1642622934; bh=/2TXi5cooOuOFKZkMmmYamTdpYG9N8BpyfXHwl5i1Gk=; h=Subject:From:To:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=KP45qo+ckjqd2JXD5iTUqD/idwsdHhOB+bdPa1xyzUhxIqynxQ2b61Txx2WsD9NN7 BmHF9+FGtjQC0WXi8HIoMuRkwdWV0+Kg8B68MoSUlNwV5hN0nwGfxS+Didt15rfpbe IBrRh9Rvr59veIKjmgv3N+rY4gcwVi39ZAcLD4nmOOSaQ6BuZrjchfOZnXnKEDgNut oYAjewgEQ/3SOelODQwkt15ws7cOXV7hIdSou8MsGMQjlM0OmIlaK4hnMLVE+42nrv wQ2CLiN00Tif5bL1Ijp3IuizTSfDstEWnNmNWa/EFKtC6zrC+UwHGQ5HVkfaSpvYQN z6ndBdlbylmSg== Message-ID: <8c7427479b727e50e3ca6167b818ef0153be15e6.camel@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: PATCH: Allow using STTY= to save terminal state From: Peter Stephenson To: zsh-workers@zsh.org Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 20:08:52 +0000 In-Reply-To: References: <20220118222414.2507-1-mikachu@gmail.com> <20220119140617.GC4371@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5-0ubuntu0.18.04.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4xfNsB/kzxDAehJU/KmSozA3b8ovfv+Wr/wBrsncAsAFvtKQuoOFTHni0eKF8A5xs325QKcKu5tG+6Ji1VyndCXqpX+B3hfgD87CieekU40Ev4qvW5mioN I182gDltLfUYGqiw8Afy0sfdi92xOhAJe43Gpyb3o+1oa3cM1+i9VIkSuAFs6i/yvqWqdzyun0AoJQ== X-Seq: 49700 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On Wed, 2022-01-19 at 09:29 -0800, Bart Schaefer wrote: > On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 6:07 AM Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > > > So perhaps we need some syntactic sugar for "wrap a command with > > a well-known pair of before/after modifiers". > > Not every problem deserves a generalized solution. This sort of thing > can already be done with function wrappers, wanders pretty far afield > from shell syntax, and adds keywords in ambiguous contexts. Yes, I think Mikael's tiny change would be a good addition. The STTY parameter is not something crying out for generalisation. pws