From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from euclid.skiles.gatech.edu (list@euclid.skiles.gatech.edu [130.207.146.50]) by melb.werple.net.au (8.7.5/8.7.3/2) with ESMTP id HAA25562 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 07:11:25 +1000 (EST) Received: (from list@localhost) by euclid.skiles.gatech.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA02799; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 16:59:00 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 16:59:00 -0400 (EDT) From: "Clinton Bunch" Message-Id: <960610155834.ZM11010@bansai.ucs.uoknor.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:58:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: "Bart Schaefer" "Re: Builtin append() and prepend() to PATH, CDPATH, etc." (Jun 10, 12:54pm) References: <199606022126.XAA00272@hzoli.ppp.cs.elte.hu> <1062.199606041027@stone.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> <199606042037.WAA00359@bolyai.cs.elte.hu> <960605142558.ZM7112@candle.brasslantern.com> <960610142211.ZM20520@bansai.ucs.uoknor.edu> <960610125413.ZM21268@candle.brasslantern.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (4.0b.514 14may96) To: schaefer@nbn.com, zsh-users@math.gatech.edu, zsh-workers@math.gatech.edu Subject: Re: Builtin append() and prepend() to PATH, CDPATH, etc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <"MifNy1.0.ah.Jo8ln"@euclid> Resent-From: zsh-workers@math.gatech.edu X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1327 X-Loop: zsh-workers@math.gatech.edu Precedence: list Resent-Sender: zsh-workers-request@math.gatech.edu On Jun 10, 12:54pm, Bart Schaefer wrote: > Subject: Re: Builtin append() and prepend() to PATH, CDPATH, etc. > On Jun 10, 2:22pm, Clinton Bunch wrote: > } Subject: Re: Builtin append() and prepend() to PATH, CDPATH, etc. > } > } On Jun 5, 2:25pm, Bart Schaefer wrote: > } > } > > } > } >zsh 4.0: > } > } > > } > } >1. wzsh (windowing zsh) is now available. Also, zsh now has colour > } > } > and menu capabilities on text only terminals. > } > } > } > } It has colour capabilities to some extent: you can put colour sequences > } > } into prompts quite easily. I don't see any advantage in having zsh use > } > } windows in any way. > } > > } > I tend to agree. At this point you've rewritten emacs. Just *get* emacs, > } > and run zsh in a shell buffer. > } > } Wrong. At this point, you've written a shell whose scripts can use > } GUI objects to interact with end users. > > Exactly what kind of "GUI objects" are we talking about here? The only > thing the phrase "windowing zsh" conjures in my mind is something that > looks like a bunch of xterms each running a shell. see below. > > It sounds to me like you want wish (the tcl/tk shell). I don't think > it's appropriate to bloat zsh with a GUI-object-description language. > You can launch wish GUIs from $(...) if you need to feed the results > back into zsh (or any other shell). > First, Tcl has got to have the ugliest syntax of any language known to man. Second, Tk is a very poor rip-off of Motif and almost as ugly as Athena. What I'm talking about is something that actually allows X/Xt/Motif calls from within the shell (a la dtksh). This wouldn't be zsh but a parallel and derivate work ( wzsh ). This, of course, would best be accomplished through a dynamic (or even not so dynamic) extension interface for adding builtins. These changes would be similar to the ones made for ksh93 in support of dtksh. > > ?? Are you sure it's proprietary? Yes, dtksh is based off Korn Shell 93 and source code is not freely available AFAIK. > > -- > Bart Schaefer Brass Lantern Enterprises > http://www.well.com/user/barts http://www.nbn.com/people/lantern > > New male in /home/schaefer: > >N 2 Justin William Schaefer Sat May 11 03:43 53/4040 "Happy Birthday" >-- End of excerpt from Bart Schaefer