Re: Old messages

Re: Old messages

[whukriede]

> There used to be a nice www archive wich is also mentioned in the FAQ on
> http://www-stud.enst.fr/~tardieu/mailarchive/zsh-list/index.html but it
> does not work recently.

I mailed him on August, 3, until now, there was no reply. I'd suggest to
remove this pointer from the Faq.

Greetings, Wolfgang.

Re: History list fix

[Zoltan Hidvegi]

> By the way, there's another fix of mine for a traditional bug, namely
> the bogus `permission denied' error when trying to execute a
> non-existent programme with an unreadable directory somewhere in the
> path, which seems to have gone missing.

I did not find it.  I think I accidently deleted it because I thought that
I already merged it.  Cound you send it again to me?

An other question, is your fc fix work without the previous HISTIGNOREDUPS
patch?  I'd like to release 3.0.0 today or at least tomorrow (it's
Wednesday 1 am) and I'd like to add bugfixes only and perhaps some POSIX
compatibility patches.  3.0-pre6 seems to be quite bug-free (but it's just
because everyone is on holiday :-)).  The slow refresh on NeXT may be a
problem but I have absolutely no idea what can cause that.  It seems to be
an OS problem since the whole prompt is printed with one fwrite command.
Other than that I've found only one serious problem that zsh did not save
the history correctly on timeout, and dumped core when all memory debugging
was enabled but it was easy to fix (that bug was there befere 2.5 I think).

There is an other refresh bug which I reported a few months ago that in an
xterm when I type a multiline command like

% for i in *
do
done

and later bring it back from the history using up-line-or-history and
copy/paste the do/done lines, the result is do<spaces>done instead of
do<newline>done.

On Friday I'll go for an other one-week holiday :-).

Zoltan

Re: Old messages

[Geoff Wing]

Zoltan Hidvegi wrote:
:> By the way, there's another fix of mine for a traditional bug, namely
:> the bogus `permission denied' error when trying to execute a
:> non-existent programme with an unreadable directory somewhere in the
:> path, which seems to have gone missing.
:I did not find it.  I think I accidently deleted it because I thought that
:I already merged it.  Cound you send it again to me?

People who *need* older zsh messages (from the math.gatech.edu lists) can get
them from	 http://www.primenet.com.au/zsh/

They are in gzip'ed tar files grouped by message number.
eg.  01xx.tgz   contains messages 100-199
The more recent ones (which don't complete a set) are as individual files.

There are a few missing.  For whatever odd reasons I never received them.

Please don't go too heavy on this site unless you need the articles as I
only have a 64k link (which is why I haven't set it up as an easily browsible
site).  Maybe someone else wants to do it on theirs?

I haven't bothered with the stuff from sterling.com list since it's probably
past its used-by date and gone old and moldy (and probably still on sterling).
-- 
Geoff Wing [mason@primenet.com.au]   PrimeNet - Internet Consultancy

Re: Old messages

[Zoltan Hidvegi]

> Please don't go too heavy on this site unless you need the articles as I
> only have a 64k link (which is why I haven't set it up as an easily browsible
> site).  Maybe someone else wants to do it on theirs?

If someone have a program which does threading and html conversion, works
without any user interaction and simple to install, I can install it here to
create an easily browsible www archive.  The Hungarian academic network has
a 1 Mbit link to Amsterdam and a 256 kbit link to Viena, which is usually
quite usable from Europe (I think that the outgoing badwich is not filled
completely).  The relyability of the US connection depends on the
Amsterdam-New York like.  Recently there has been some router problems in
New York which caused a lot of trouble.

There used to be a nice www archive wich is also mentioned in the FAQ on
http://www-stud.enst.fr/~tardieu/mailarchive/zsh-list/index.html but it
does not work recently.

Zoltan

Re: Old messages

[Zefram]

>If someone have a program which does threading and html conversion, works
>without any user interaction and simple to install, I can install it here to
>create an easily browsible www archive.

I'd like to recommend against HTMLification of mail archives.  The only
thing worse that broken-printable patches is HTML patches.  (Didn't I
learn from yesterday's QP thread?  Apparently not.)  The mail messages
are plain text, and now really only useful in an archived format (so
browsing is not much of a consideration).

It would be nice to have them available for ftp over a reasonably fast
link.

-zefram

Re: Old messages

[Bart Schaefer]

On Aug 14,  8:05pm, Zefram wrote:
} Subject: Re: Old messages
}
} I'd like to recommend against HTMLification of mail archives.  The only
} thing worse that broken-printable patches is HTML patches.

Having the archives HTMLified doesn't necessarily mean you can't get to
them as raw data.  Have a look at

	http://www.hpc.uh.edu/fvwm/archive/

as an example.

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